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starwolf
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response 222 of 406:
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Jun 17 21:25 UTC 1998 |
If this is so, I delight in his misfortune. ;}
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font
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response 223 of 406:
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Jun 19 20:14 UTC 1998 |
ahh well. such things esclate if you pay them too much mind. (or profanity
might be a better word ;0)
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bjorn
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response 224 of 406:
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Jul 11 14:42 UTC 1998 |
Of course . . . those who seek incitement and fail to find it . . .
<laughs maniacally>
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bookworm
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response 225 of 406:
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Oct 11 23:37 UTC 1998 |
My name is Julie and I recently came out as a bisexual about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
I am currently engaged to be married to another bi (who BTW has been very
helpful). I've never had any sexual experiences with MOTSS. Well,
technically, I suppose I'm still in the closet because I haven't told anybody
except my fiancee. I'm fairly sure my family would freak if I ever told them.
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i
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response 226 of 406:
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Oct 12 01:36 UTC 1998 |
"...haven't told anybody except my financee..."? We're Grexers, but we're
still people...well, mostly.... :)
Welcome to a (relatively) nice, friendly little piece of the world outside
the closet!
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brown
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response 227 of 406:
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Oct 12 02:36 UTC 1998 |
<wink>
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gypsi
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response 228 of 406:
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Oct 12 04:37 UTC 1998 |
<applauds Julie> Hang in there, hon. =)
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jazz
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response 229 of 406:
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Oct 12 14:04 UTC 1998 |
GREX is in a sort of closet, physically and socially.
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orinoco
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response 230 of 406:
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Oct 12 21:36 UTC 1998 |
Well, so she's expanded from a closet to a storeroom. Or is that stretching
the metaphor too far?
In any case, yes, welcome.
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brown
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response 231 of 406:
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Oct 14 02:20 UTC 1998 |
OY!
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lumen
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response 232 of 406:
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Oct 16 01:38 UTC 1998 |
re #229: ?
Julie and I went to our first G.A.L.A. meeting last night..it went great and
she fit right in. She said she was comfortable and she is now on the AIDS
awareness committee. She worked for a non-profit organization before that
helped people with AIDS; as she has had a relative die from the disease, it
is personal.
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gypsi
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response 233 of 406:
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Oct 16 06:33 UTC 1998 |
Woohoo!!! (Not to the sad news of her relative, though...)
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bookworm
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response 234 of 406:
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Oct 16 22:25 UTC 1998 |
Well, my relative contracted AIDS from her husband, but she died of improperly
handled medication. Her system couldn't handle it and it shut down. I felt
sorry for my uncle Sergio. He cried so much at the funeral, I was sure he
was heart broken.
As for the GALA meeting. It was just like walking into a roomful of friends.
I felt like I belonged there--that that was where I was needed--that I wasn't
alone. Get my meaning?
The non-profit organization I worked for is called CareBearers. I learned
a whole lot there. I hope to be able to use it to help people in all walks
of life--not just Gay/Lesbian/Bis. This is information that everyone needs.
To be safe: Don't do drugs. Don't have unprotected sex. Don't share needles
(assuming you cannot stop doing drugs) It's all about safety, people. We
can't sit Idly and wait for people to get the message. We have to take it
to them
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lumen
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response 235 of 406:
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Oct 16 22:38 UTC 1998 |
Interestingly enough, the more scientists study, the more they see a
connection between veneral diseases and promiscuity. The idea of "safe sex"
has been questioned. It would seem the best choice is to save sex for one
partner. Anything else starts to become risky; the odds increase with the
number of partners.
The HIV virus *can* pass through a condom. The incidence is low, but it can
happen.
This is why I personally favor same-sex marriage, although it doesn't seem
to jibe with my religious beliefs. There are monogamous, committed, faithful
gay and lesbian couples, and they should be recognized-- they are likely to
avoid AIDS or anything else completely.
My sister is of the belief that promiscuity knows no sexual orientation, and
abstinence until committment doesn't, either. I tend to agree.
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bookworm
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response 236 of 406:
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Oct 16 22:43 UTC 1998 |
I guess I see your point. Same sex marriages would go a long way toward
protecting people from the nasty stuf that comes with sleeping around, but
speaking of our religious beliefs, the church does not agree. Marriage is
suppose to be a sacred covenant reserved only for OS couples. In Short, a
SS couple would be unable to get a temple sealing or, for that matter, to do
temple work. Sorry, folks, I didn't make the rules.
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lumen
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response 237 of 406:
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Oct 16 22:46 UTC 1998 |
Well, I still don't see a problem with civil recognition of a SS marriage.
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gypsi
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response 238 of 406:
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Oct 17 01:14 UTC 1998 |
Ummm...AIDS can be transferred between MOSS's also, so same-sex
marriages and partnerships aren't much safer.
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i
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response 239 of 406:
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Oct 17 03:27 UTC 1998 |
Compared to promiscuity, stable/faithful partnership/marriage is much safer.
The more impulsively you (& your partners) get around, the greater the odds
of the infected partner, the broken/leaky/not-bothered-with-this-time comdom,
etc.
I'd guess that no church is *more* opposed to a stable MOSS partner than to
frequent/high-turnover MOSS partners, so they don't discourage the safer
route, they only fail to encourage it.
If you want 100.000% safe sex, lock the door, scrub hard with Mr. Clean and
Chlorox, take your petri dish of Vaseline out from under the high-intensity
UV light, and GO FOR IT!
...somehow i don't see this catching on...
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brighn
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response 240 of 406:
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Oct 17 13:40 UTC 1998 |
Why are we appealing to scientific authority here? Isn't it obvious that the
more partners you have, the more likely you are to catch a venereal disease?
It seems condescending to bring in "scientists have found...".
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i
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response 241 of 406:
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Oct 18 00:12 UTC 1998 |
Probably because many of the rebels against traditional moral authority
most inclined to a high risk/high promiscuity would otherwise dismiss the
common sense advice as snooty moralism in disguise.
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lumen
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response 242 of 406:
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Oct 19 22:30 UTC 1998 |
re #241: Yeah, that's probably a good assumption since this tends to gets
lumped in with the whole moralism/religion/bad experience thing..
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bookworm
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response 243 of 406:
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Oct 21 21:43 UTC 1998 |
Re #241: Reminds me of an old scripture from the Book of Mormon...
Lesseehere...mmm...Something about "the foolish traditions of our fathers"?
Help me out would you, Jon?
Anyway, I think that "old-fashioned" moralism works just as well in this case
as with any other. To stay well, stay chaste. There is at least one thing
you can guarantee in a monogamous relationship, be it MOTOS or MOTSS, You're
less likely to get burned. Esp if both partners are thoroughly tested before
they become seriously involved.
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lumen
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response 244 of 406:
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Oct 21 22:49 UTC 1998 |
Well, "old-fashioned" moralism usually doesn't make concessions for MOTSS
monogamous relationship.
Julie-- not sure what you're referring to by the "foolish traditions of our
fathers" quote? In context, it's usually talked about when one generation
gets a false assumption or belief-- y'know-- they saw a situation incorrectly,
or felt they were cheated, or felt vengeful-- and then teach those assumptions
to their children until they become tradition.
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lamayhem
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response 245 of 406:
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Dec 1 00:58 UTC 1998 |
Hey there, all. This is Carrie.
I am an out bi. I currently have a boyfriend.. well, not currently. Three
years of a boyfriend. I came out to him first. I am a Soc. major w/ minor in
Women & minority studies @ Grand Valley in Allendale Mich. That's near Grand
Rapids for the geographically challenged. I am keeping this one short. If
you're just jumping up and down to find out about me, check my plan. (We all
know everyone finds me just SOOO interesting.) Smirk.
Have fun kiddies,
Carrie
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lumen
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response 246 of 406:
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Dec 1 02:33 UTC 1998 |
You definitely sound like a very interesting person, Carrie-- I did check out
your plan. I am rather electic myself, so I can appreciate that :) Welcome.
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