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scg
response 22 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 18:21 UTC 2003

I like to think I'm pretty well informed, and yet, I know just about nothing
about Clark, other than that he's currently leading in the polls.  I'm
assuming that means most of those who claim to be his supporters are going
entirely on name recognition.

Dean scares me somehow.  I agree with his positions a lot more than I agree
with Bush's, but he doesn't strike me as giving his positions a lot of
thought.  I'm tempted to call him a liberal Bush, although that's probably
unfair.  Maybe I'll warm up to him at some point.

I found this New York Times column interesting:
http://www.iht.com/articles/109920.html

I think just based on what the candidates have to say, I'm far more impressed
with John Kerry than anybody else at this point.  But if the most basic
qualification to be President is being able to get elected, he doesn't look
like he's doing so well in that regard.
bru
response 23 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 20:31 UTC 2003

It has been reported that Clark has a very bad temper.  He once yelled at a
bagboy for how he was treating his luggage while loading it into the car. 
He yelled so much that the manager found it prudent to apologize for the
altercation to the entire convention.

It has also been reported he ordered an english commander during the conflict
in Kosovo to attack the Russians when they siezed the airport.  The Brit told
him "I am not going top start world war three today."

Not a very calm person, and not one I am sure I would want sitting on the
nuclear trigger.
happyboy
response 24 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 20:50 UTC 2003

as opposed to a retard like dubyuh?

lol
dah
response 25 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 21:06 UTC 2003

If I had retarded children, I wouldn't like someone as disrespectful as
happyboy looking after them IMHOP.
happyboy
response 26 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 21:51 UTC 2003

you probably WILL have retard children someday.
murph
response 27 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 22:45 UTC 2003

Just to provide some concrete sources here, the NYTimes' account of the WW3
comment can be read at http://www.zpub.com/un/Clark's%20Military%20Record.h
tm
(without having to log into the NYTimes).
jaklumen
response 28 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 23:24 UTC 2003

resp:21 you scored some brownie points in my book.
richard
response 29 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 01:25 UTC 2003

Clark is a closet republican.  He was quoted in today's new york times
PRAISING Ronald Reagan as a great leader and president!  That kind of talk
won't get him nominated by the Democratic party.

scg, what exactly gives you the impression that Dean lacks the courage of his
convictions?  I don't think thats true at all.  Remember he's a five term
governor of Vermont and has a record to back up his views
scg
response 30 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 02:15 UTC 2003

Where did I say I thought Dean lacked the courage of his convictions.  My fear
is just the opposite, really, that like Bush he seems so sure of himself that
it doesn't occur to him he might be wrong.

This seems to be a common trait among some (but not all) other alcoholics I
know as well (Bush and Dean are both alleged to have had alcoholic pasts),
and generally strikes me as a pretty big disqualifier for positions in which
good judgement is important.
richard
response 31 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 04:37 UTC 2003

plenty of great presidents were alcoholics...FDR was an alcoholic.  Didn't
stop him fom being a great leader.  
gelinas
response 32 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 04:38 UTC 2003

Reminds me of what President Lincoln said of General Grant. :)
scg
response 33 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 06:32 UTC 2003

I'd like to be proven wrong about Dean, since I suspect he's going to be
President.  Heck, I'd like to be proven wrong about Bush too, but I suppose
it's a bit late for that.
clees
response 34 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 10:29 UTC 2003

Martin isn't american either.
There is no gain here, for Howard Dean but goodwill.
I think it's cool of him to write us a letter (even if it was the same 
letter printed a couple of times). 
He didn't have to do it. 
I like this kind of attitude.
I will cherish this letter, you bet.
tod
response 35 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 13:47 UTC 2003

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jp2
response 36 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 15:59 UTC 2003

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tod
response 37 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 16:22 UTC 2003

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jp2
response 38 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 17:24 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 39 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 17:26 UTC 2003

what's a silly hat?

/looks out of corner of eye and slowly hides his
 muddy mudhen baseball cap.
richard
response 40 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 18:49 UTC 2003

re: #36...you haven't been looking at the latest polls, Bush has been doing
really badly, a couple of democrats poll ahead of Bush and Dean-- with much
lower name recognition nationally at this point, is   nearly tied with him.
Don't think Bush can't be beaten.  Remember his father, Bush the elder, was
voted out of office, even though he had a war the year before and had been
popular.  So its happened before.  And who beat Bush the elder? a little known
governor from a small state...
slynne
response 41 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 20:32 UTC 2003

Why dont you offer to eat a hat if Bush *wins*, richard? That way, no 
matter who wins, all the rest of us will get to see some putz eat a 
hat. *snort* ;)
scg
response 42 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 21:37 UTC 2003

I think it's likely that stuff Bush has done will have disasterous
consequences, rather quickly, and I think that will be career ending for Bush.
Again, I'd love to be wrong about the first part of that.  Therefore, I think
if the Democrats put up a good candidate, they will most likely win.  Dean,
for all his other faults, appears to be a good candidate.

I don't think Clark is really relevant at this point.  He appears to be the
front runner, but nobody knows anything about him.  I suspect he will both
gain and lose considerable numbers of supporters as people learn more about
him (and whether they're liking him or disliking him for the right reasons).
Maybe he'll end up a front runner again after that, maybe not.
gelinas
response 43 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 22:42 UTC 2003

(A Silly Hat is one that can be purchased with the Silly Hat Fund, of course.)
i
response 44 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 23:12 UTC 2003

Clark was a top general, but hardly famous.  My impression is that he's
rather green and not greatly talented at politics.  Rumor is that he's got
some personal issues which are probably substantial political liabilities.
Eisenhower was a very famous top general, was often more a military 
politician than a military commander, and had four years to bone up on
domestics politics between first being seriously proposed as Presidential
candidate and actually deciding to go for it.  I'd say that Clark would
have to grow really fast and get really lucky to win in the '04 election.

My impression is that Dean is an awesome candidate...from the viewpoint of
the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.  I have grave doubts about
his ability to compete with Bush in the general election, or to effectively 
govern if he won.  
klg
response 45 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:34 UTC 2003

Go, How-wierd!
jp2
response 46 of 536: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 02:12 UTC 2003

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