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tod
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response 218 of 378:
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Mar 8 22:12 UTC 2006 |
I agree that obsession with weight is an epidemic. I also agree that obesity
is the cause of the epidemic. I speculate that our country is abnormally
overweight due to the chemicals and sugar in all the food which cause cravings
and weird insulin shocks to our nervous systems.
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richard
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response 219 of 378:
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Mar 8 22:14 UTC 2006 |
They also have those "fat farms", aka diet camps, there's a famous one at Duke
University, which operate on the idea that the key is to remove the person
entirely from their previous environment. That you can't lose that much
weight sitting at home surrounded by your enabling loved ones and bad habits.
If this 600 pound woman had the money to go spend 2-3 months at Duke it would
probably make a world of difference.
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richard
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response 220 of 378:
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Mar 8 22:35 UTC 2006 |
edina before you had your surgery, did you consider other less invasive
options, like liposuction or stomach stapling? Or going to a fat farm on a
beach, where they give you a liquid diet and let you sweat off the pounds in
the high humidity?
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richard
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response 221 of 378:
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Mar 8 22:57 UTC 2006 |
re #207 why did you stop at eleven pounds with Sasha? Surely with a little
extra work, she can get back into the single digits. Its only a pound more
to lose to be under ten! :)
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happyboy
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response 222 of 378:
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Mar 8 23:38 UTC 2006 |
re217: wrong, amphetamines will kill her sooner than the fat,
dummy.
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johnnie
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response 223 of 378:
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Mar 8 23:51 UTC 2006 |
set point: A person's set point can and will change (or so the notion
goes). If one continues to eat too much, the set point will adjust
upwards; if one diets and exercises, the set point will adjust down.
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tod
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response 224 of 378:
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Mar 8 23:53 UTC 2006 |
re #222
Don't you mean amphatamines?!
I'm all for skinny cow ice cream sandwiches after work. Who's with me?
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marcvh
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response 225 of 378:
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Mar 8 23:58 UTC 2006 |
Sure, meet me at the Cold Stone near Westlake Mall.
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tod
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response 226 of 378:
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Mar 9 00:33 UTC 2006 |
I got my oil changed by Jiffy Lube and they gave me a 2 free Cold Stone 1
scoop coupons
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richard
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response 227 of 378:
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Mar 9 00:41 UTC 2006 |
supposedly it helps to change from cow milk to soy milk. cow milk is
high in fat and a lot of kids get obese from loading up on the milk in
their cereal over the years. Problem is I have yet to find a soy milk
that tastes EXACTLY like regular milk.
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tod
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response 228 of 378:
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Mar 9 00:44 UTC 2006 |
Soy milk ruins the male libido.
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marcvh
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response 229 of 378:
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Mar 9 00:49 UTC 2006 |
In that case health insurance should be required to pay for it as a birth
control method, and Wal-Mart should be required by law to stock it.
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rcurl
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response 230 of 378:
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Mar 9 02:35 UTC 2006 |
So far this has just been about obesity. I think it might be enlightening if
slynne is willing to post the values for her cholesterol (HD and LD) and
triglycerides, to compare with what are considered healthy ranges.
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nharmon
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response 231 of 378:
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Mar 9 03:04 UTC 2006 |
I don't see any enlightenment coming from slynee posting her cholesterol
levels. And your amusement is not good enough reason.
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tod
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response 232 of 378:
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Mar 9 04:39 UTC 2006 |
It wouldn't be enlightening unless we had nathan's hdl and ldl counts to
compare with.
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rcurl
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response 233 of 378:
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Mar 9 06:01 UTC 2006 |
OK, in case anyone wants to compare, here is a simplified list. These are
important parameters because, regardless of weight, these values can cause
serious consequences if they are out of bounds.
Total cholesterol: too high > 200 mg/dl
HDL cholesterol: too low < 40 mg/dl
LDL cholesterol: too high > 130 mg/dl
Triglycerides: too high > 150 mg/dl
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nharmon
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response 234 of 378:
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Mar 9 12:53 UTC 2006 |
According to my doctor, my cholesterol levels have never been a
problem. I used to have somewhat high blood pressure, but I think that
was due to stress because it is normal.
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jadecat
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response 235 of 378:
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Mar 9 15:13 UTC 2006 |
resp:221 I 'stopped' at 11 lbs, Richard, because that's what the vet old
me she should weigh. I want a healthy cat, not an Ashley Olson in cat form.
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richard
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response 236 of 378:
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Mar 9 16:31 UTC 2006 |
re: speed. most diet pills on the market are really just high end
amphetamines being sold as "diet pills" The diet products industry is largely
one big scam.
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edina
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response 237 of 378:
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Mar 9 16:33 UTC 2006 |
I love how I passive aggressively got called a fat bigot. I'm sure a
"self-hating fat bigot" is probably more on target.
Richard, I did have my stomach stapled as part of the procedure. And I'm
still trying to figure out how you compare liposuction to it.
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jadecat
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response 238 of 378:
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Mar 9 16:35 UTC 2006 |
resp:236 as is well shown in the movie "Requiem for a Dream."
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mcnally
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response 239 of 378:
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Mar 9 17:13 UTC 2006 |
re #227: Like many of Richard's pronouncements this one doesn't even
pass the standard of "barely plausible." I'm really skeptical that anyone
gets obese from putting milk on their cereal. Probably the cereal doesn't
help much, as many varieties are simply *amazingly* full of sugar, but
putting a cup of soy milk on your Captain Crunch or Frosted Flakes isn't
going to keep you slim.
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richard
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response 240 of 378:
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Mar 9 17:23 UTC 2006 |
mcnally most brands of soy milk DO have less fat than whole cow milk.
Ingesting bowls and bowls of high fat whole milk can and does make people fat.
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jadecat
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response 241 of 378:
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Mar 9 17:31 UTC 2006 |
WHOLE milk yes, but what about a comparison to Skim Milk?
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slynne
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response 242 of 378:
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Mar 9 18:33 UTC 2006 |
resp:237 I wasnt being passive aggresive. I was out and out saying that
your comments about the 600lb woman were prejudiced. That doesnt mean,
btw, that I think you are self-loathing. But I do think that a lot of
fat people have prejudices against fat people in general. I know that
for a lot of my life I certainly have shared a lot of prejudices
against fat people. e.g. That they eat too much, that they could lose
weight if they had self-discipline, they are going to die young, they
cost society a lot of money, etc.
I know no one likes it when their prejudices are pointed out. I think
bru is still mad at me for suggesting that he might have a bias towards
white men. But, sometimes I think it is important to speak up when one
sees discrimination in the world no matter where it happens to be even
if that means that one ends up being unpopular. I also know that I both
dont like it and am grateful whenever anyone points out the prejudices
that I happen to have (and since I am human, I have them...everyone
does)
On a side note, NPR had a good story this morning about how local news
outlets' health coverage is often flat out wrong. I have notice that a
lot of sensational obesity stories I have seen have been on the local
news and I have to wonder how often those stories were wrong. How much
of the information we all think we know is really speculation based in
a culture of fat hatred and fat fear?
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