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richard
response 217 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:11 UTC 2006

that 600 pound woman needs drugs to increase her metabolism.  She needs some
strong amphetamines.  Better she be hooked on speed than food.
tod
response 218 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:12 UTC 2006

I agree that obsession with weight is an epidemic.  I also agree that obesity
is the cause of the epidemic.  I speculate that our country is abnormally
overweight due to the chemicals and sugar in all the food which cause cravings
and weird insulin shocks to our nervous systems.
richard
response 219 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:14 UTC 2006

They also have those "fat farms", aka diet camps, there's a famous one at Duke
University, which operate on the idea that the key is to remove the person
entirely from their previous environment.  That you can't lose that much
weight sitting at home surrounded by your enabling loved ones and bad habits.
If this 600 pound woman had the money to go spend 2-3 months at Duke it would
probably make a world of difference.
richard
response 220 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:35 UTC 2006

edina before you had your surgery, did you consider other less invasive
options, like liposuction or stomach stapling?  Or going to a fat farm on a
beach, where they give you a liquid diet and let you sweat off the pounds in
the high humidity?  
richard
response 221 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:57 UTC 2006

re #207 why did you stop at eleven pounds with Sasha?  Surely with a little
extra work, she can get back into the single digits.  Its only a pound more
to lose to be under ten!  :)
happyboy
response 222 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 23:38 UTC 2006

re217: wrong, amphetamines will kill her sooner than the fat, 
       dummy.


johnnie
response 223 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 23:51 UTC 2006

set point:  A person's set point can and will change (or so the notion
goes).  If one continues to eat too much, the set point will adjust
upwards; if one diets and exercises, the set point will adjust down.
tod
response 224 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 23:53 UTC 2006

re #222
Don't you mean amphatamines?!

I'm all for skinny cow ice cream sandwiches after work.  Who's with me?
marcvh
response 225 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 23:58 UTC 2006

Sure, meet me at the Cold Stone near Westlake Mall.
tod
response 226 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 00:33 UTC 2006

I got my oil changed by Jiffy Lube and they gave me a 2 free Cold Stone 1
scoop coupons
richard
response 227 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 00:41 UTC 2006

supposedly it helps to change from cow milk to soy milk.  cow milk is 
high in fat and a lot of kids get obese from loading up on the milk in 
their cereal over the years.  Problem is I have yet to find a soy milk 
that tastes EXACTLY like regular milk.
tod
response 228 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 00:44 UTC 2006

Soy milk ruins the male libido.
marcvh
response 229 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 00:49 UTC 2006

In that case health insurance should be required to pay for it as a birth
control method, and Wal-Mart should be required by law to stock it.
rcurl
response 230 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 02:35 UTC 2006

So far this has just been about obesity. I think it might be enlightening if
slynne is willing to post the values for her cholesterol (HD and LD) and
triglycerides, to compare with what are considered healthy ranges. 
nharmon
response 231 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 03:04 UTC 2006

I don't see any enlightenment coming from slynee posting her cholesterol
levels. And your amusement is not good enough reason.
tod
response 232 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 04:39 UTC 2006

It wouldn't be enlightening unless we had nathan's hdl and ldl counts to
compare with.
rcurl
response 233 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 06:01 UTC 2006

OK, in case anyone wants to compare, here is a simplified list. These are
important parameters because, regardless of weight, these values can cause
serious consequences if they are out of bounds.

Total cholesterol:  too high  > 200 mg/dl
HDL cholesterol:    too low   <  40 mg/dl
LDL cholesterol:    too high  > 130 mg/dl
Triglycerides:      too high  > 150 mg/dl
nharmon
response 234 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 12:53 UTC 2006

According to my doctor, my cholesterol levels have never been a 
problem. I used to have somewhat high blood pressure, but I think that 
was due to stress because it is normal.
jadecat
response 235 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 15:13 UTC 2006

resp:221 I 'stopped' at 11 lbs, Richard, because that's what the vet old
me she should weigh. I want a healthy cat, not an Ashley Olson in cat form.
richard
response 236 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 16:31 UTC 2006

re: speed.  most diet pills on the market are really just high end
amphetamines being sold as "diet pills"  The diet products industry is largely
one big scam.
edina
response 237 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 16:33 UTC 2006

I love how I passive aggressively got called a fat bigot.  I'm sure a
"self-hating fat bigot" is probably more on target.

Richard, I did have my stomach stapled as part of the procedure.  And I'm
still trying to figure out how you compare liposuction to it.
jadecat
response 238 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 16:35 UTC 2006

resp:236 as is well shown in the movie "Requiem for a Dream."
mcnally
response 239 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 17:13 UTC 2006

 re #227:  Like many of Richard's pronouncements this one doesn't even
 pass the standard of "barely plausible."  I'm really skeptical that anyone
 gets obese from putting milk on their cereal.  Probably the cereal doesn't
 help much, as many varieties are simply *amazingly* full of sugar, but
 putting a cup of soy milk on your Captain Crunch or Frosted Flakes isn't
 going to keep you slim.
richard
response 240 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 17:23 UTC 2006

mcnally most brands of soy milk DO have less fat than whole cow milk. 
Ingesting bowls and bowls of high fat whole milk can and does make people fat.
jadecat
response 241 of 378: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 17:31 UTC 2006

WHOLE milk yes, but what about a comparison to Skim Milk?
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