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mynxcat
response 211 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 14:46 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 212 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 14:49 UTC 2002

I'm pretty sure Jazz is smarter than you give him credit for. Stop the 
nonsense.
gull
response 213 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 14:54 UTC 2002

I think the only way to get around talking this in circles is to put
together a formal proposal and put it to a membership vote.
jazz
response 214 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 15:12 UTC 2002

        Unfortunately, Sapna, I don't think you have my meaning -
"discrimination", though the word is often used to mean something bad, isn't
inherently bad.  It's often quite necessary.  Saying people are being
"discriminated against" is rhetoric, therefore, not logic.
jp2
response 215 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 15:30 UTC 2002

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danr
response 216 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 15:45 UTC 2002

What he's saying is that someone who is currently a member needs to 
make a formal motion as stated in the bylaw.
scott
response 217 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 15:56 UTC 2002

To put it more bluntly:  If the membership wants it, the board will do it.
Your job is to convince the membership.  
bhelliom
response 218 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 16:00 UTC 2002

<hugs scott>
jp2
response 219 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 16:02 UTC 2002

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polytarp
response 220 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 16:41 UTC 2002

fag.
mynxcat
response 221 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 16:49 UTC 2002

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scott
response 222 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:07 UTC 2002

All eligible members may vote.
bhelliom
response 223 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:15 UTC 2002

Isn't this all in the by-laws?
mynxcat
response 224 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:16 UTC 2002

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cross
response 225 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:33 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 226 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:46 UTC 2002

This is getting absolutely ridiculous.  And that's supposed to have 
gull acknowledge what?  "They started it" hardly helps this discussion. 
Not only that, but we all have to take responsibility for our own 
actions.  Person A's dissmissive attitidue doesn't exactly give person 
B carte Blanch to be rude and belittling to C.

From the website.

Cyberspace Communications functions as an online democracy, with 
policies set by its users. Formally, we are governed by a board of 
directors elected by our members, but we have a tradition of operating 
very much by a consensus. Topics are always publicly discussed in the 
Co-op conference before being voted on by the board, and the board is 
very reluctant to decide on anything until a strong consensus has 
emerged in the conference. In addition, any member can call a vote by 
the membership on any subject, and the board has no power to overrule 
the results of such votes. Changes to the bylaws can only be made by 
votes of the membership. 

I'm not going to say how many people have been trying to bring this 
point across.
cross
response 227 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 18:13 UTC 2002

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jp2
response 228 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 18:17 UTC 2002

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other
response 229 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 18:58 UTC 2002

Whatever it is, and however it functions, the people who support Grex are 
generally pleased with the status quo here, and if those people change 
their opinions on the matter, then Grex will change to suit.  If you wish 
to be a part of that process, or to instigate such change, then you must 
be willing to support Grex.  Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.
cross
response 230 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 19:31 UTC 2002

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mynxcat
response 231 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 19:48 UTC 2002

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scott
response 232 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 20:10 UTC 2002

When has anybody attempted to "stop the discussion", though?  Has somebody
put in a response saying "we won't do it, fuck off" or something along those
lines?
cross
response 233 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 20:15 UTC 2002

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mynxcat
response 234 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 20:18 UTC 2002

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krj
response 235 of 299: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 20:19 UTC 2002

Most social organizations are conservative; otherwise they'd 
tear themselves apart implementing every idea that came along.
Motivating a change in a political organization requires some 
thought and some work, not just a declaration that User X has thought
of this, and clearly it is the superior alternative.
 
That approach only works if User X is the benevolent dictator
of the group.
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