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krj
response 210 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 05:49 UTC 2004

Connections via telnet have also seemed slower than usual, though
I have not attempted to measure the time.
mcnally
response 211 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 05:41 UTC 2004

 I am still experiencing an extended wait between the time that I start
 my ssh client (PuTTY) and the time I receive a login prompt from Grex.
 Performance is more or less normal once I get logged in but it takes 
 quite a while for the login prompt to show up.  While connecting to my
 present session I timed it and it took 79 seconds before I got a prompt.

 Any ideas?
rcurl
response 212 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 06:14 UTC 2004

I just opened another ssh1 terminal window to Grex, and it also took 79
seconds for the login prompt to appear. 
jor
response 213 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 12:07 UTC 2004

        similar delay with dialin. 
davel
response 214 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 12:57 UTC 2004

and with telnet.
aruba
response 215 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:03 UTC 2004

Yup, I get the same thing.
tod
response 216 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:52 UTC 2004

telnet takes 2 min
gull
response 217 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 16:02 UTC 2004

Staff seems to have given up on commenting in this item.  Maybe someone
will have to go prod them in coop or garage to find out what's actually
going on?
twenex
response 218 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 16:07 UTC 2004

prod them in coop[, or in] garage... or in person.
mfp
response 219 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 16:18 UTC 2004

Point.
cmcgee
response 220 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 20:28 UTC 2004

Very consistent 78-79 second delay between welcome to Grex and login prompt
when I dial in.
naftee
response 221 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 21:00 UTC 2004

Yeah, I was using m-net and forgot about the GreX window for a secONde.
gull
response 222 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 23:17 UTC 2004

Sounds suspiciously like it's waiting for a dead nameserver to time out.
krokus
response 223 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 02:06 UTC 2004

re 217
Despit the staff being staff, Grex isn't their entire life.  I'm sure
they'll comment when they have a few spare minutes.
gelinas
response 224 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 03:47 UTC 2004

Or when we know something worth saying.
gelinas
response 225 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 03:59 UTC 2004

Based on comments above, I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf, commented
out the loop-back address and restarted named.  Now to see if it actually
makes a difference.
marcvh
response 226 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 05:04 UTC 2004

So far it does not seem to make a difference.
mcnally
response 227 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 06:50 UTC 2004

 re #222: 
 > Sounds suspiciously like it's waiting for a dead nameserver to time out.

 A not unreasonable guess but that doesn't seem to be the problem.
 Assuming a reasonable caching policy on Grex it wouldn't have fit
 the pattern anyway, as it takes a long time to get the login prompt
 every time one tries, not just the first time (after which, presumably
 the value would be stored in the local cache.)

 re #225:
 > Based on comments above, I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf, commented
 > out the loop-back address and restarted named.  Now to see if it actually
 > makes a difference.

 Doesn't seem to have..  (And I doubt that restarting named was necessary.)
dpc
response 228 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 14:05 UTC 2004

It took a minute and 19 seconds to get a prompt just now.  I really
hope this situation can be fixed soon.
aruba
response 229 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 14:29 UTC 2004

Still a long pause for me.
gregb
response 230 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 17:07 UTC 2004

This is one time I'm glad I use Backtalk.
marcvh
response 231 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 17:13 UTC 2004

Re #227, caching failed lookups is not universal.  Some systems only
cache success, not failure.
jor
response 232 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 23:19 UTC 2004

        I just measured the pause at about 78 seconds.
        The temperature is 74. Winds are calm and
        my disposition is sunny.
tod
response 233 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 23:30 UTC 2004

Partly cloudy
hayz buddhist messiah thetan
mcnally
response 234 of 286: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 07:55 UTC 2004

  re #231:  I was assuming a resolv.conf with more than one nameserver
  listed (which I think is how we started) and also assuming only one
  broken nameserver such that the resolver query would block until the
  first (broken) nameserver timed out and then succeed upon querying 
  the second server.

  I suppose it still could be a nameserver issue but it seems to be 
  something else.  I wonder what's special about 78-79 seconds?  Several
  people have measured the same delay time at this point (and one or two
  report longer times.)
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