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novomit
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response 21 of 78:
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Jul 10 12:33 UTC 2003 |
I disagree with #18 . . . not everyone who is "indoctrinated" is unable to
think for themselves, and many whoi aren't taught such end up doing so. people
do have free will, you know.
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gull
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response 22 of 78:
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Jul 10 13:55 UTC 2003 |
Re #0: Dood. Lay off the Ann Coulter. That stuff rots your brain.
Re #9: I don't think Rane was ever a child. ;>
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rcurl
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response 23 of 78:
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Jul 10 16:30 UTC 2003 |
Re #22: I have evidence to the contrary.
Te #21: I didn't say they aren't. The subject was a categorical statement
that kids taking tests in school pray. I am asserting that that is probably
incorrect, especially for kids not indoctrinated into prayer. If they
are not indoctrinated, to what would they pray?
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sabre
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response 24 of 78:
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Jul 10 16:48 UTC 2003 |
You speak as if "indoctrinated" was a vulgar term. It isn't if we teach
children the truth(yes let's speak about truth). It is only dangerous when
far left liberals use it to teach thier lies. Horace Mann started
indoctrinating early in the 20th century by starting the public school system.
His whole purpose was to "indoctrinate" children into his belief system.
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jazz
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response 25 of 78:
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Jul 10 16:58 UTC 2003 |
Of course, Hitler's bitterly conservative teachings, not being far
left, were OK.
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rcurl
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response 26 of 78:
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Jul 10 17:07 UTC 2003 |
Re #24: spoken like a far right illiberal.
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twenex
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response 27 of 78:
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Jul 11 01:25 UTC 2003 |
Re original item: what utter Neo-Fascist, reactionary, stupid, unenlightened,
self-serving, conservative, right-wing, bigoted, quasi-religious,
fundamentalist-Christian, Republican shite.
(If there's any rightwingers who don't feel insulted yet, sorry i missed you
out).
Reasoned rebuttal to follow.
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klg
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response 28 of 78:
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Jul 11 01:50 UTC 2003 |
re: "#23 (rcurl): ... to what would they pray?"
The ACLU?
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md
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response 29 of 78:
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Jul 11 01:56 UTC 2003 |
To whom it may concern?
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rcurl
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response 30 of 78:
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Jul 11 02:00 UTC 2003 |
The freedom *from* public prayer is the ACLU's business, not what people do
in private.
One has to be indoctrinated to "prayer" to think that there is any such
ritual, directed to anyone or anything, that can affect reality. So
"praying" to TWIMC is still motivted by some indoctrination in mythological
processes.
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sabre
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response 31 of 78:
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Jul 11 11:56 UTC 2003 |
One also has to "indoctrinated" to believe that there ISN'T a God who can
affect reality.
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russ
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response 32 of 78:
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Jul 11 12:07 UTC 2003 |
Re #27: Aw, c'mon, twenex. Tell us what you REALLY feel! ;-)
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jmsaul
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response 33 of 78:
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Jul 11 12:35 UTC 2003 |
Re #31: Why?
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novomit
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response 34 of 78:
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Jul 11 13:36 UTC 2003 |
Well, desperate situations have a way of making people religious, if for only
a short time. Regardless of the level of indoctrination someone has received,
it is unlikely that they have never heard of a higher power. Whether this sort
of prayer works (or any other type of prayer for that matter) is another
story.
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x11
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response 35 of 78:
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Jul 11 14:16 UTC 2003 |
Hahahahaha, this is the best trollpost I have seen in a while.
It should be /.'d (is there a web interface for these?)
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gull
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response 36 of 78:
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Jul 11 14:19 UTC 2003 |
Re #34: The old "there are no atheists in foxholes" effect?
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orinoco
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response 37 of 78:
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Jul 11 15:37 UTC 2003 |
"desperate situations have a way of making people religious"
It almost sounds like you're calling prayer a nervous habit. Maybe the
atheists in foxholes just smoke cigarettes and bite their fingernails
instead. :)
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scott
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response 38 of 78:
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Jul 11 16:21 UTC 2003 |
"There must be a god - mere chance could not do such horrible things",
perhaps?
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sabre
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response 39 of 78:
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Jul 11 16:30 UTC 2003 |
RE:#27
What an ultra left wing,socialistic,homosexual,ignorant ass,baby-killing,
parasite promoting REACTION to said post.
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rcurl
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response 40 of 78:
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Jul 11 16:44 UTC 2003 |
Re #31: there is zero evidence for gods, so no indoctrination at all is
required to reject myths as reality. Some rational education is required, of
course, so one isn't flumoxed by every demagogue.
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sabre
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response 41 of 78:
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Jul 11 17:02 UTC 2003 |
RE:#40
Man you are one blind moron if you think there isn't any evidence for a God.
Consider the vastness of the universe. Consider your own complexity.
nuff said.
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twenex
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response 42 of 78:
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Jul 11 17:03 UTC 2003 |
Re #39: ultra-left wing? socialist? how flattering. thanx sabre. as for
homosexual, coming from you that's a compliment even if you say it to an
Iranian Ayatollah.
Re #32. Russ. I am about to do just that, point-by-point relevant to original
post.
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sabre
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response 43 of 78:
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Jul 11 17:05 UTC 2003 |
I figured you would like that...you COMMIE bastard.
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flem
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response 44 of 78:
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Jul 11 17:10 UTC 2003 |
From agora fall 2001, item 142
> #61 of 63: by Rane Curl (rcurl) on Mon, Dec 3, 2001 (12:06):
> Good thing, but my theory is not invalidated by the absence of relevant
> data.
(yes, I've been saving that quote ever since. :)
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rcurl
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response 45 of 78:
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Jul 11 17:31 UTC 2003 |
(Psst: it isn't supported either.)
Re #41: I have considered the vastness of the universe and the complexity of
life and - so what? There is not an iota of evidence of gods in any of it,
not even as "creators", much less as participants. And for almost the entire
existence of this vast and complex universe the existence of gods was not
even contemplated...until a life form evolved that could imagine such
things. But imagination does not make reality, and the reality is indifferent
to our imagining.
The argument from vastness and complexity is the argument based essentially
in ignorance. Fortunately, the boundaries of ignorance have been push far back
toward the limits of space and time - and nowhere is there a hint of "gods".
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