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jaklumen
response 21 of 26: Mark Unseen   May 20 11:05 UTC 2002

I did a little research, and I found the hip-hop group Digital 
Underground was responsible for popularizing P-Funk samples in rap 
music.  Here's a review of their debut (and most notable) 
recording, "Sex Packets" from Real One, as follows:

*
While hip-hop was consumed by the hardcore, noisy political rap of 
Public Enemy and the gangsta rap of N.W.A., Digital Underground 
sneaked out of Oakland with its bizarre, funky homage to Parliament-
Funkadelic. Building most of their music from samples P-Funk records 
and developing a similarly weird sense of style and humor, highlighted 
by Shock-G outrageous costumes, and the whole band's parade of alter 
egoes. Of all these alter egoes, Shock-G's Humpty Hump -- a ridiculous 
comical figure with a Groucho Marx nose and glasses, and a goofy, 
stuttering voice -- was the most famous, especially since he was 
immortalized on their breakthrough single, "The Humpty Dance." Over 
the course of their career, Digital Underground has featured a 
numerous members, but throughout it all, Shock-G has remained at its 
core, developing the band's sound and style, which they had from the 
outset, as their 1990 debut Sex Packets proved. Sex Packets was an 
instant hit, thanks the loopy single "The Humpty Dance," and while 
they never scaled such commercial heights ever again, their role in 
popularizing George Clinton's elastic funk made them one of the most 
important hip-hop groups of their era.
Shock-G (b. Gregory E. Jacobs, August 25, 1963) had spent most of his 
childhood moving around the East Coast with his family, eventually 
settling in the Bay Area of California. He dropped out of high school 
in the late '70s and spent several years pursuing a life of crime 
before eventually finishing his degree and going to college to study 
music. Along with Chopmaster J, Shock G formed Digital Underground in 
1987, and the duo released a single, "Underwater Rimes," that year 
which went to number one in the Netherlands. In 1989, the group signed 
with Tommy Boy and that summer "Doowutchyalike" became an underground 
hit. By that time, Digital Underground had expanded significantly, 
featuring DJ Fuze, Money-B (b. Ron Brooks), and Schmoovy-Schmoov (b. 
Earl Cook). Sex Packets, the group's debut album, was released in the 
spring of 1990, and "The Humpty Dance," which was rapped by Shock G's 
alter ego Humpty Hump, climbed all the way to number 11 on the pop 
charts, peaking at number seven on the R&B charts. With its P-Funk 
samples, jazzy interludes and innovative amaglam of samples and live 
instrumentation, Sex Packets received positive reviews and went 
platinum by the end of the year.

Digital Underground followed Sex Packets in early 1991 with This Is An 
EP Release, their first recording to feature rapper Tupac Shakur. The 
EP went gold and set the stage for their second album, Sons of the P, 
which was released that fall. On the strength of the gold single "Kiss 
You Back," Sons of the P also went gold, but it received criticism for 
its similarity to Sex Packets. By the time Digital Underground 
delivered its third album, The Body Hat Syndrome in late 1993, hip-hop 
had become dominated by gangsta rap, particularly the drawling G-funk 
of Dr. Dre, which ironically was heavily indebted to George Clinton. 
Consequently, their fan base diminished significantly, and The Body 
Hat Syndrome disappeared shortly after its release. Nearly three years 
later, Digital Underground returned with Future Rhythm, which spent a 
mere three weeks on the charts. Who Got the Gravy? followed in 1998. ~ 
Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide
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Of course, Snoop Dogg also sampled George Clinton as well-- "What's My 
Name" is essentially a cover of "Atomic Dog."


 
jaklumen
response 22 of 26: Mark Unseen   May 22 08:15 UTC 2002

Also, having done a little research on Heatwave, of "Boogie Nights" 
fame, it would seem that soft funk evolved somewhat into connections 
to disco, and soul would seem to be the slow-tempo counterpart to funk.

Heatwave was apparently an influence on the second sound of Kool & The 
Gang.  Here's Real One's notes at the artist guide again, on the album 
_Central Heating_, as follows:

If you could use only one adjective to describe Heatwave's sound, it 
would be "smooth." The band's romantic ballads and slow jams were the 
epitome of smooth, and that adjective also describes many of their up-
tempo funk grooves. This isn't to say that Heatwave's funk lacked 
grit -- it had plenty of grit, but even so, it was an undeniably 
smoother style of funk than Parliament/Funkadelic, James Brown, Tower 
of Power, Rick James, or the Bar-Kays. In fact, when Kool & the Gang 
switched to a smoother, sleeker approach in 1979 and hired J.T. Taylor 
as its new lead vocalist, Heatwave was a big influence. The Kool & the 
Gang that emerged on 1979's Ladies' Night is certainly a lot more 
Heatwave-like than the gutbucket, down-and-dirty Kool & the Gang 
of "Jungle Boogie" and "Hollywood Swinging." And it isn't hard to hear 
the parallels between Taylor and Heatwave's Johnnie Wilder. It's safe 
to assume that when Kool & the Gang was reinventing itself, its 
members had Too Hot to Handle and Central Heating in their 
collections. With this excellent sophomore effort, Heatwave lived up 
to the promise it showed on Too Hot to Handle. The invigorating funk 
smash "The Groove Line" became a disco-era anthem, and the album's 
other big hit, "Mind Blowing Decisions," is a quiet-storm classic. 
From up-tempo funk grooves like "Party Poops" and "Put the Word Out" 
to the romantic Northern soul of "Happiness Togetherness" and "Leaving 
for a Dream," Central Heating is among Heatwave's strongest releases. 
~ Alex Henderson, All Music Guide
 

jaklumen
response 23 of 26: Mark Unseen   May 22 08:23 UTC 2002

I'm not sure if it was mentioned in the funk item from the previous 
music conference, but funk also seems to have been absorbed quite a 
bit into the newer styles of rock.

On this thread, I think The Red Hot Chili Peppers were probably one of 
the first bands to really put the rock-funk mix in the spotlight.  The 
fact that George Clinton mentored them in their early days is quite 
notable-- he told VH1's Behind The Music something to the effect of "I 
go where the funk is" when interviewed about his work with the Chili 
Peppers.

I worked with some rockers at my last job, and so I was listening to 
the rock station quite a bit.  Apparently, a lot of rock acts were 
drawing on funk as well as hip-hop.
jaklumen
response 24 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 08:40 UTC 2002

resp:19 and resp:22  As discussed before, funk smoothed out in the 
late 70s to merge somewhat with disco.  Soul, on the other hand, 
picked up the tempo a bit to mainstream into contemporary "lite rock," 
although I suspect that it was merely mingling with its "white sound" 
contemporaries (think AM dial for "white sound," I guess).  Heatwave, 
Kool and the Gang, Earth, Wind, and Fire, and Lakeside are all 
reference points; as is Lionel Richie during and after his work with 
the Commodores.
jaklumen
response 25 of 26: Mark Unseen   Aug 13 14:08 UTC 2002

just on a disco tangent--

Kylie Minogue seems to be the latest to follow the retro-disco trend, 
and she seems to be doing quite successfully.  After the remake 
of "Locomotion," she's recently hit stardom with "Fever" (aptly named, 
I'd say).  She's drawing comparisons to Madonna, supposedly because 
Madonna once sounded like a disco dolly.

The sound is very much in keeping with early 80's disco trends.. it's 
tied to very soft funk.
jaklumen
response 26 of 26: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 09:34 UTC 2002

another comment on the funk-to-rap:

Rapper Coolio brought attention to a late 70's and early 80's funk and 
R&B band called Lakeside in 1995 by remaking two of their big hits with 
them: "It's All The Way Live" and "Fantastic Voyage."

"It's All The Way Live" was a Top 5 R&B hit in 1979, cut from their 
debut album, _Shot of Love_.

"Fantastic Voyage" was their biggest pop hit and another R&B chartopper 
in 1980, cut from their third album of the same name, which also went 
gold.

Again, I don't think the Coolio remakes took samples: I think Lakeside 
actually performed in the songs.
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