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25 new of 870 responses total.
blaise
response 208 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 15:04 UTC 2005

Sindi, two things.  First, the easy one: the pipe sign is an OR function
in regular expressions, so v|agra matches any line that contains either
a v or agra.

Second, on the "logout without disconnecting" issue: the "exec
/usr/bin/login" is a *workaround*, not a permanent solution.  Each time
you issue "exec /usr/bin/login" that command will log you out without
disconnecting, allowing someone else to log in.  If they want to log out
without disconnecting, they will have to issue "exec /usr/bin/login".
aruba
response 209 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 15:49 UTC 2005

Re #207: Dave, you can set your backspace character to be either
/------------------\
|  ^H (ascii 8) or |
| DEL (ascii 127). |
\------------------/
Some people use one, and some people use another.  It only matters that what
your terminal program sends is what your account on Grex expects to receive.

I have my terminal program set to send ^H, and I have a line in my .login
file which says:
/-------------------------------------\
| stty intr '^C' kill '^K' erase '^H' |
\-------------------------------------/
to tell Grex (among other things) that ^H is my erase key.

When you see those ^Hs on the screen it means your terminal is sending ^H
but Grex is expecting DEL.  So you can either tell your terminal to send
DEL, or tell Grex to expect ^H.
rcurl
response 210 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 16:30 UTC 2005

The  usual motd and login list did not appear this morning. 
keesan
response 211 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:09 UTC 2005

Is DEL ^?   Thanks for explaining that I need to login back to my own account
rather than exiting to it.  But I set up an alias to use ssh instead.
In .procmailrc can I use | to set up one long filter instead of many short
ones, for instance    v.agra|vi.?agra|viag.?ra  (to catch v1agra and vi.agra
and viaggra)?  In fact is there some way to not have to use three lines
starting with :0: to filter on each subject, but put everything on one line,
and have one filter for Subject, one for From, one for To, one for message
body (0B)?  Or even one that combines Subject, From and To:  

My filter, now that I removed the white list, has been rejecting roughly every
other mail from each person so I am turning on the verbose log again but it
produces pages of text for each spam and someone just sent seven nearly
identical ones.  So I would like to shorten .procmailrc.  
Is anyone working on a grex-wide spam filter yet, that people could modify
(for instance spamassassin throws out all my electric bills for five causes).
keesan
response 212 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:19 UTC 2005

Talk - Couldn't bind to control socket, couldn't assign requested address.
I have not changed my permissions since old grex.  .
keesan
response 213 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:22 UTC 2005

I just got a tel   'help  ^U help  EOF (honeycut), in response to my offer
of help via tels since talk was not working.  My guess is vandalism but still,
talk is not working.
mcnally
response 214 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:37 UTC 2005

 The talk program that ships with OpenBSD is probably a different one than
 Grexers are used to.  I see that "ytalk" is not available, but it's one of
 several superior "talk" replacements.
tpryan
response 215 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:38 UTC 2005

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keesan
response 216 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:11 UTC 2005

My spam filter caught a real mail until I removed the filter for message body
containing h.?g.?h  - There was nothing in the mail that I could find with
this pattern which I thought included hgh and h.g.h and htgtht etc.  What
exactly does .? mean - I thought it means any single character or no character
at all.   Should it be h\.?g\.?h instead?    It also caught something with
td in the Cc: line when I thought I was filtering on td in the message body
with :0B: - does :0B: also include the header and :0: do header only?
blaise
response 217 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:44 UTC 2005

Discussions of regular expression syntax probably belong in another
item, but I'll answer one more here.  h.?g.?h would match the word high,
for example, or highest (the first two I think of).  Yes, .? means 0-1
instances of any character.

The H flag checks the header and the B flag the body; HB would check
both.  (The default is H.)

From the Procmail Tips website
(http://pm-doc.sourceforge.net/pm-tips.html):

5.2 Flags HB at top of recipe (warning)
[Philip] Version 3.22 has a bug that keeps the 'H' flag from being
cleared, such that once you use it, it never gets cleared. Using the 'H'
flag will therefore cause problems with latter recipes that use just the
'B' but not the 'H' flag. Either way, the only time you should use the
'H' flag is on recipes that needs to match against both the header and
the body. If you want a recipe to match only against the body and you're
using 3.22, use the "B ??" modifier on the conditions. See message
<http://mailman.rwth-aachen.de/pipermail/procmail/2002-February/008355.html>
. So to be most pportable possible, convert all previously used condition lines
from:

      :0 B
      * body-check-here
    

to use this format:

      :0
      * B ?? body-check-here


keesan
response 218 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:47 UTC 2005

I obviously goofed on my hgh filter!   I have been using :0: (not :0) for
header only, and :0B: for body only - no H's.  I will try again to make some
sense of man procmail (and remove most of my filters with .? in them). 
Thanks.
keesan
response 219 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:51 UTC 2005

I set up a test filter with either :0 or :0: on the line before the subject
and it worked both ways.  man procmail also lists samples with or without the
colon.  Does anyone else want to start an item on how to use procmail as a
spam filter?  
keesan
response 220 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 03:09 UTC 2005

Talk is still unable to bind to a control socket.  
gelinas
response 221 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 03:38 UTC 2005

Dave, the problem was that your .profile had two characters, ^ and H, where
it should have had only one, <CTRL>H.  I've taken the liberty of fixing
that problem.  (I also fixed the interrupt and kill keys, which had the smae
problem.)  I also changed the path of the tset command from /usr/ucb/tset to
/usr/bin/tset.

Tim, you had the same problems with .login.  I've fixed them.

I don't know why your tab key isn't working.
                Mine works for me.
See:            Two tabs, on both this line and the line one above it.
cross
response 222 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 03:53 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

mcnally
response 223 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 04:35 UTC 2005

It is, as long as you're not using a shell which does something special
with '^', in which case you might need to surround the ^H with single quotes.
aruba
response 224 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 15:46 UTC 2005

My agora participation file got munged last night for some reason.
twenex
response 225 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:50 UTC 2005

This is more like a little niggle than a problem, but why won't colour work
in programs like "most" when I have my terminal set to xterm (I don't know
of any other terminal settings where it might work)?
twenex
response 226 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:53 UTC 2005

I've also tried "vt100", "vt102", "vt220", and "vt420" to no avail.
mcnally
response 227 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:14 UTC 2005

 Have you tried "ansi"?
mcnally
response 228 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:18 UTC 2005

 re #225:  does color work in anything?  what happens if you
 use echo in the shell to echo the escape sequence to change
 text color?  any effect?  your pager program might be eating
 the color sequences if it works in the shell but not in bbs.

rcurl
response 229 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:34 UTC 2005

When I log in I get the screen

------------------------------------------------------------------
Last login: Wed Jan  5 14:32:51 2005 from
pcp09229896pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net
OpenBSD 3.5 (GREX) #2: Sun Dec 19 15:10:32 EST 2004

To see statements of grex principles and limits, look at

  http://cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/grex-principles -Grex Statement of
  Principles http://cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/grex-limits     -Grex Limits

You have new mail.
/usr/local/lib/global.login: No such file or directory.
------------------------------------------------------------------

No motd, no list of users. Is this a permanent change, or a problem?
cross
response 230 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:37 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

rcurl
response 231 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:45 UTC 2005

Thanks. That did it. Now I get the message

mesg: Unable to find your tty (ttyq5) in utmp file

Is that good or bad or indifferent? 
gelinas
response 232 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:49 UTC 2005

It means that the settings allowing (or disallowing) tels won't be available.

We may need to recompile mesg.
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