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tod
response 207 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 22:29 UTC 2003

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jmsaul
response 208 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 22:31 UTC 2003

I think he installed a trojan on computers in a lab, and snarfed people's
passwords.  Though why his prof was using lab computers is beyond me.
tod
response 209 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 22:36 UTC 2003

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scott
response 210 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 23:01 UTC 2003

Re 207/208:  He installed a hardware keylogger on various computers.
jules
response 211 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 02:23 UTC 2003

tomorrow is my birthday
jep
response 212 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 02:27 UTC 2003

Happy birthday, Julie!
tod
response 213 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 13:05 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 214 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 18:58 UTC 2003

harfy bipplely jules
polytarp
response 215 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 19:05 UTC 2003

You know, guys, I barely like reading Grex when it's just a bit there, from
like a day or whatever, but now it's like FIVE days and I'm fed up.
polytarp
response 216 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 01:18 UTC 2003

Me too, man.
albaugh
response 217 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 16:49 UTC 2003

I CANNOT VOUCH FOR THE ACCURACY, EFFECTIVENESS, OR APPROPRIATENESS OF THESE
SUGGESTIONS.  ANALYZE FOR YOURSELF, AND ACT ACCORDINGLY.


Subject: Better Safe than Sorry

After reading, forward it to someone you care about,
never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body.
If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. Learned this from a tourist guide to New Orleans:
If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM.
Toss it away from you... chances are that he is more interested in your wallet
and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. 
RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car:
Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole 
and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you but everybody else will.
This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating,
working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.
DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect
opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head,
and tell you where to go.
AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car,
at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger
door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their
vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle,
and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest
your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a
guard/policeman to walk you back out.
IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY.  (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs.
(Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN!
The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; 
And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT!
It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer,
was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies 
of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked
"for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, 
which is when he abducted his next victim.

I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know.  It may save a life.
A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. I was going to send this
to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, 
daughters, etc., you you may want to pass it onto them, as well.

Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world
we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it's better safe than sorry.

rcurl
response 218 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 17:02 UTC 2003

Why should  only women be paranoid? Suuport them by being parnoid too. Send
this to any man you know, too.
happyboy
response 219 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 17:27 UTC 2003

ALWAYS BE AFRAID!
tod
response 220 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 21:21 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 221 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 01:14 UTC 2003

I would rather get killed by a serial killer than live my life in fear. 
Seriously. I have had my car broken into. And I have been 
mugged...twice. I was shot once too (albeit with a pellet gun but it 
was still scary). I have had a crazy naked man run through my house. I 
still leave the back door unlocked when I am home. I dont want to let 
someone take that away from me. 
glenda
response 222 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 01:19 UTC 2003

I agree.  If someone tries something with me, I am going to do my damnest to
take him/her down.  I figure that anyone that does this regularly is used to
people, women in particular, to just give in that someone brash enough to
fight back is going to scare the bejesus out of them.  I refuse to just lie
down and be a victum.  They are going to have to actually work to get anything
from me.  (As the oldest and smallest of 6, I learned to fight dirty at a very
young age.)
mcnally
response 223 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 04:35 UTC 2003

> 3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the
>    back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like
>    crazy. The driver won't see you but everybody else will.  This has
>    saved lives.

  I won't claim to be some kind of locked-in-a-trunk safety expert, 
  but I've almost certainly got more experience with the situation
  than whoever wrote the list.  As far as I can tell they either
  drive a very different car than I do or else didn't even bother
  to check inside their trunk before writing this, because I can't
  think of many cars which have a hole through the frame big enough
  to wave one's arm through the taillight access.  Also, and I'm
  speaking from experience here, I think it would be quite difficult
  to contort one's body into a position suited for kicking the 
  taillights with any amount of force.  Further maneuvering within
  the trunk to allow one's arm access to the hole would also be
  complicated.  The whole suggestion is just a bizarrely complicated
  plan, especially when you consider that virtually all late model
  cars have trunk-escape safety latches..

novomit
response 224 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 12:21 UTC 2003

Assuming you are locked in a trunk, you have little to lose by attempting
this. 
gelinas
response 225 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:01 UTC 2003

uh, yeah, you do: wasting energy on the impossible is seldom a good idea.

The times I've looked at my taillights, they've been through-bolted; there
are screw-sized holes holding the assembly in place. Often, there has been
a backing plate protecting the contents of the trunk from snagging on the nuts
and ends of the screws.

It's dark in there.  You wouldn't be able to see where to kick, either.
gull
response 226 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:08 UTC 2003

It's far fetched, but I can see how this would work on *some* modern
cars, where the tail lights are flimsy plastic assemblies bolted through
into the trunk.  On my Honda there are large cut-outs in the sheet metal
to allow the tail light reflectors to protrude in.

On the other hand, on most cars pulling out a tail light bulb would be
easy, and if the headlights are on it would at least give you some light
in there to look for a way to release the lid.  You might as well pull
both, and hope maybe a cop will pull the guy over for an equipment
violation.
tod
response 227 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:18 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 228 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 15:44 UTC 2003

What people *have* done is get out their cell phone and called 911. I
wonder why that list did not include carrying a cell phone on your
body. 
cmcgee
response 229 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 15:56 UTC 2003

Ann Arbor Science Festival For 5th-8th Grade Girls.

Sally Ride Science Club is sponsoring a Festival in Ann Arbor September 20th.

11:30 to 4:30 at the UofM.  Last year it was held at the EECS bui8lding on
North Campus.  Sally herself is the keynote speaker, with workshops and a
streetfair.  There are adult workshops as well.  

Registration $18 in advance, $25 at the gate, if there are spaces left.

register:
www.SallyRideFestivals.com
or
1 800 561 5161
tod
response 230 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 16:15 UTC 2003

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scott
response 231 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 16:21 UTC 2003

Probably the most useful thing, aside from a cell phone (smart kidnappers will
take it away from you) would be a little flashlight, like a Maglight Solitaire
or one of those button-cell LED lights.  Then you can at least see the inside
of the trunk while you look for things to kick loose.
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