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anderyn
response 206 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 00:46 UTC 2002

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brighn
response 207 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 02:48 UTC 2002

#205> "Fair use" is not a refutation in and of itself. And legality IS related
to morality: It's socialized morality. A culture's laws are a reflection of
what that culture, together, has decided its morality is. But I see you have
no real interest in a substantive conversation, you'd rather just through out
vacuous barbs.

Maybe I hit too close to home, so you're trying to sneak out of the
conversation.
krj
response 208 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 03:11 UTC 2002

Sen. Hollings has formally introduced the SSSCA in the Senate.  
It has a new name, the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television 
Promotion Act, or CBDTPA.  Sponsoring Senators are
       Hollings,  D-South Carolina
       Stevens,   R-Alaska
       Inouye,    D-Hawaii
       Breaux,    D-Louisiana
       Nelson,    D-Florida
       Feinstein, D-California.
News coverage is abundant.
jazz
response 209 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 04:11 UTC 2002

        Wow, isn't that like calling a machinegun a "mobile people renewing
tool"?
other
response 210 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 04:13 UTC 2002

Actually, with the economic imperative at work, this may well promote consumer
broadband and digital television.  I mean, what better incentive for the
corporate interests than legally enforceable control over the consumer
experience?
jazz
response 211 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 04:15 UTC 2002

        They're really not getting this whole concept that, when it comes to
a battle of wits, corporate America pretty consistently loses to rebel youth,
are they?
other
response 212 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 04:47 UTC 2002

I think you answered your own question, there, fella.  :)
russ
response 213 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 06:05 UTC 2002

Re #200:  From what little I've had the time to follow, the Co$
did it by making specious allegations of DMCA violations and
invoking the "notice and take-down" provision against Google's
mirrors.  I gather they pretty much deleted xenu.net from Google.

xenu.net is hosted in Europe, outside the reach of the US courts.
However, in order to contest the specious take-down, xenu.net
would have to submit itself to the judgement of US courts in
Scientology's choice of venue.  This means that the asshole
with the most money wins the battle, not the side that's right.

Yet another reason why the entire DMCA is evil and must be abolished.

Re #204:  Now you know why I don't listen to commercial radio any more.
gull
response 214 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 13:38 UTC 2002

Google bas backed off a little -- they've relisted Xenu's homepage.  The
request was apparently only to remove the pages that actually had the
claimed copyright violations on them.

http://www.theregus.com/content/6/24405.html
krj
response 215 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 14:42 UTC 2002

((Metadiscussion:  now that Agora has rolled, I'll start the next 
  item in this series later today or this weekend.  I wanted to give 
  Agora a chance to grow a few less argumentative items in its 
  front parlor.))
brighn
response 216 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 17:11 UTC 2002

Russ, if you don't listen to radio, don't buy commercial CDs, and don't
download music, what sources *do* you use? (I'm also wondering if you watch
TV and attend movies, or if you've taken your attitudes to Keesanian lengths.)

I suppose one's music consumption could be limited to concerts, but all but
the smallest of those are tied up in the same gristmill.
russ
response 217 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 04:08 UTC 2002

Re #216:  I listen to non-commercial radio (WDET), and I do buy CDs
(mostly used).  At this time I do not have a television hooked up
and functional.
brighn
response 218 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 05:10 UTC 2002

h, makes sense. I don't enjoy the bulk of what's on public radio.
 
I'll admit, I'm a slave to the corporate entertainment industry.
gull
response 219 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 02:07 UTC 2002

I like some of the public radio talk shows, dislike others.  I often 
enjoy the jazz programs on WEMU.
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