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robh
response 200 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 01:52 UTC 1996

The 29th would be better for me then, as I work on Sunday mornings.
(Depending on how we define "morning", of course, I could easily make
an 11 AM meeting, but 10 would be pushing it, and 9 would be
impossible.)
tsty
response 201 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 11:15 UTC 1996

re #197 .... if a membership is, by request of the member, restricted
from voting, by request of the member, then the particular identity
(apparently mandated by the state) remains anonymous, which is fine
with me, too.
brighn
response 202 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 14:45 UTC 1996

Eh?  Speak up, TS.  Are you saying that if a prospective member VOLUNTARILY
waives the right to vote, the state has no say in whether "verification" of
that member is done?  (by "right to vote" I mean having any power whatsoever
in the decision-making or governance system, outside of simple voicing of
opinion)  Are you suggesting that certain baff have been bucking the concept
of giving a certain prospective member membership and using the state as a
cheap and invalid excuse?  Heretic!
rcurl
response 203 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 18:25 UTC 1996

Corporate membership classes need to be defined in the bylaws (or articles)
along with their privileges and responsibilities. If a non-voting class
existed, a prospective member could choose that, but a member with
the vote could not change class by not voting - they would have to resign one
class and choose another. [Which I *think* is what is being discussed - but
maybe not...]
tsty
response 204 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 17:37 UTC 1996

i hereby move that #203 be passed by the grex board ... good thnking
both brighn and rcurl.
chelsea
response 205 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 18:13 UTC 1996

Instituting different membership classifications would require a 
change in Grex's Bylaws.  Maybe you'd like to enter an item
and suggest possible wording and see if there is enough interest
to go for a membership vote.

My personal opinion - nothing is broken.
davel
response 206 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 13:09 UTC 1996

Mine too, FWIW.
brighn
response 207 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 20:33 UTC 1996

Dave and Mary haven't looked at the finances lately, eh?
At least one person has offered money in exchange for an anonymous non-voting
membership.  The money was declined because such a membership doesn't exist.
Sounds like something's broken to *me*.
rcurl
response 208 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 21:58 UTC 1996

...an anonymous non-voting membership *with telnet privileges*, to be more
accurate.
draven
response 209 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 02:56 UTC 1996

Then I agree with Grex for declining it.  Telnet is among the more 
powerful, dangerous Internet protocols.  While some, I'm sure, have
legitimate reasons for wanting access to it with absolutly no
identification whatsoever, even when the records are locked up offline, I
think the risks outweigh the benefits in this case.
brighn
response 210 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 05:56 UTC 1996

Why would the person in question want telnet priveleges when she needs telnet
priveleges to get to Grex in the first place?
Has she said she wanted as much?
popcorn
response 211 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 13:31 UTC 1996

Yes.  I believe so.
brighn
response 212 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 20:06 UTC 1996

As clarification, in order to use member-based telnet priveleges, one must
first get to Grex, correct?  That is to say, MichNet (and other dial-ins)
doesn't recognize the grex accounts as validation, do they?
robh
response 213 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 22:04 UTC 1996

No, we'd have to be a MichNet member in order to validate.
rcurl
response 214 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 03:01 UTC 1996

Which costs money, and also limits the number of logins allowed to
the number of tokens purchased by Grex (I think.....).
ladyevil
response 215 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 06:47 UTC 1996

No, I do not need telnet. I would very much like it, but I don't need it.
It's okay, nothing will be done about this anyway, so don't think you're
dissappointing me any further if still nothing comes of it. I'm used to it.
chelsea
response 216 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 13:41 UTC 1996

Whew, that's a relief.
popcorn
response 217 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 14:32 UTC 1996

So, about that Arbornet meeting that Grex and HVCN are invited to.....
robh
response 218 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 16:28 UTC 1996

Yah, is it this weekend?
srw
response 219 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 06:53 UTC 1996

i don't remember a date having been chosen yet. Saturday is a football game
-- that's my only potential conflict this coming weekend, though.
robh
response 220 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 07:19 UTC 1996

I think we'd pretty well agreed to meet on Sunday, whichever weekend
we decided upon.

Of course, since nobody from M-Net seems to be responding any more...
pfv
response 221 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 05:08 UTC 1996

        The Borg do not even bother with Policy or Board conferences with
        anything like regularity anymore..

        I'd suggest you act w/o M-net (aka Arbornet) - they are currently
        so fubar that they may soon have no office in addition to a slump
        in patronship..
robh
response 222 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 05:19 UTC 1996

Ok, we'll have a meeting to decide how Grex can help M-Net, only
we won't invite anyone from M-Net...  ???

<robh is very confused now>

Ah well, it'll be good to spend an entire afternoon watching football.
I haven't done that in years.  >8)
tsty
response 223 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 06:06 UTC 1996

can i wath too? <g>
dang
response 224 of 229: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 18:13 UTC 1996

I'm confused.  This was started in june, and still hasn't happened?  What
stopped it?  It seems like a good idea.
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