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robh
response 200 of 246: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 01:57 UTC 1996

Re 198 - I thought mju was on the Board when he was 16?
I still remember the Board meeting he couldn't attend because
he was grounded.  Not a problem most of us have...  >8)
scg
response 201 of 246: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:52 UTC 1996

mju and I have both been on the board while under 18.  We didn't know it was
illegal at the time.
tsty
response 202 of 246: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 05:56 UTC 1996

and it was a damn fine thing you both did, too! if i remember right
mju voted by 440 Mhz  <g>.  *i* was more than suitably impressed, fwiw.
  
the number of trips one takes around the sun is a PrettyDamnPoor method
for some situations, this being one.
  
however for the step-and-fetchit crowd ... GUILTYGUILTYGUILTY!!!! (tsk!)
                        <g>
remmers
response 203 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 16:31 UTC 1996

(The polls are now open. Type  !vote   to get the voting menu.)
arthurp
response 204 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 18:28 UTC 1996

Besides, I had the chance to walk around the sun as many times as I wanted
the other day.  (I made zero trips.  Not fair to boost the numbers).
remmers
response 205 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 12:50 UTC 1996

The election is over. I'll count the ballots and post results
as soon as I get a current voter list from the treasurer.
davel
response 206 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 11:46 UTC 1996

You mean the voters group isn't guaranteed up to date?
davel
response 207 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 11:46 UTC 1996

(Um, sorry, forgot my smiley, so here it is now:)
8-{)}
remmers
response 208 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 12:01 UTC 1996

Since anybody can run the vote program anyway, it's not crucial
the the 'voters' group be up-to-date during the election, but
before the ballots are counted one has to know exactly who was
an eligible voter during the period Dec. 1-15 so that one knows
whose votes to count.

Mark (aruba) called me last night and gave me some updates to
the list, so I'm now in a position to count votes. I'll do that
shortly and will announce the results in Coop.
tsty
response 209 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 07:58 UTC 1996

how about, jsut for kicks&grins, even if after-the-fact, post the
'valid voters' list as well. 
  
and, perhaps, the list of 'who voted.' 
  
my understanding is also that you could post a 'who voted for whom' list
as well. but that would be tacky. justthe first two requests are fine.
scg
response 210 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 08:09 UTC 1996

I'm not sure it's anybody's business who voted, unless there's some reason
to suspect fraud.
popcorn
response 211 of 246: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 09:09 UTC 1996

Ya, I'm under the impression that the list of who voted is confidential.  Even
the ballot counters generally don't know who voted.  And they *certainly*
don't know who voted for who.
albaugh
response 212 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 20:53 UTC 1997

I'm not saying the USofA is the correct model for grex, but while city clerks
etc. don't announce who voted in an election, voting records *are* available
to the public...
e4808mc
response 213 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 01:24 UTC 1997

By voting record, you mean only whether or not the person obtained a ballot,
or signed in at a poling place.  No one can track whether or not you actually
voted.  
albaugh
response 214 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 18:23 UTC 1997

An interesting technicality!  :-)  It would be extremely hard to prove (for
whatever reason you'd want to) that you hadn't actually voted in an election
for which you had obtained a ballot or signed in at the poling place...
tsty
response 215 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 01:46 UTC 1997

re - several above comments: the city clerk keeps records on those ppl who
"applied to vote" (that form is an application). and since it is a tad 
difficult to leave a  polling place withOUT surrendering the received
ballot, (whether marked or mark-less), and the poll workers make sure
the ballots are (in a2's case) inserted into the machine, the names of
all those who "ran the program" are publically available, and commonly
referred to as "those who voted."
tsty
response 216 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 17:20 UTC 1997

it's certainly not confidential information in America.
tsty
response 217 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 06:44 UTC 1997

is it confidential on grex?
remmers
response 218 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 12:13 UTC 1997

I've always treated that it that way. Should that change? How
do other folks feel?
e4808mc
response 219 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 04:14 UTC 1997

I'd say keep it confidential.  I don't see any public purpose that is served
by one person being able to find out if another person voted.  
tsty
response 220 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 06:25 UTC 1997

well, that sentiment goes a loooong way towards supporting 
NO anonymous reading of conferences. this shouldn't be a surprise.
  
only a rare handful of grexers typed stuff into conferences with
the mindset of "(tons of others) being able to find out if/(what) 
another person typed" either.
  
i like my rare medium well done all over, not just spotty.
  
if it's nobody's business *if* someone typed into the vote
program, it is certainly less of their business *what* some person
typed into a conference.  The exception being, imo, the intro.cf
with public statements about the link.

remmers
response 221 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 10:58 UTC 1997

By that reasoning, what people type into a conference shouldn't
be viewable by anyone else at all, TS. You're comparing apples
and oranges.
janc
response 222 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 14:48 UTC 1997

Huh?  If I type a message into a conference, I am knowingly broadcasting a
message to the world.  I am *obviously* not seeking to keep what I type
private.  Quite the contrary.

Whether or not I vote might well be something I want to have kept private.
valerie
response 223 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 14:57 UTC 1997

This response has been erased.

albaugh
response 224 of 246: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 19:11 UTC 1997

Nope, I'm not knowingly broadcasting a message to the world when I respond
in a grex conference - I'm participating in a passive "conversation" with a
particular cyber-community.  And that's exactly why I'm not in favor of
unregistered reading of grex conferences.  Let's vote on that , already...
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