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nephi
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response 200 of 226:
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Jul 19 08:04 UTC 1995 |
Please elaborate, Christopher. You left me a little confused.
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popcorn
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response 201 of 226:
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Jul 19 13:52 UTC 1995 |
(I read it as: "Staff says that they know better than you, how often
you should change your password. It's elitist for staff to make such
a decision for the users.")
[Disclaimer: that's my reading of sidhe's words, not a representation
of my own beliefs.]
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davel
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response 202 of 226:
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Jul 20 01:30 UTC 1995 |
That's how I'd read it. Unfortunately, staff gets the complaints when
people's accounts are hacked, & gets handed the job of trying to put
things back together. That may lead to knowing better, or merely to
caring more about it before it happens.
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steve
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response 203 of 226:
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Jul 23 04:22 UTC 1995 |
How about: "staff sees what happens when people are lazy about
their passwords, and gets to deal with all the fallout of such events.
It is becuase of this fallout that staff isn't exactly chomping at the
bit to change the once-per-year rule in the passwd code to renew ones
password."
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sidhe
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response 204 of 226:
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Jul 23 19:54 UTC 1995 |
Well, a few users are! This does not seem to hold much weight with
staff. (by the way Valerie, good show with translating that! Perfect!)
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steve
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response 205 of 226:
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Jul 25 05:29 UTC 1995 |
So are you saying that we should drop everything just because a
few people don't like the policy of having to change their passwords
*once per year*? We should stop other things to work on this?
I don't think so. If this were something that effected people on a
routine basis, then yes, it would probably get much higher in the queue
of things. But it isn't. We're talking about something that happens
once a year!
I'm getting really tired of this.
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sidhe
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response 206 of 226:
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Jul 29 18:34 UTC 1995 |
So, gett to it in the next year, and the priority will have been met!
I'm just happy to hear that it is something you will put on your list.
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hross
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response 207 of 226:
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Aug 1 07:34 UTC 1995 |
I change my password every couple months regardless of what the staff says
not because the staff tells me to but because I want my account to be safe
I have had problems locally with a BBS operator distributing my password to
other users and them useing some of my local accounts to cause mayhem..It is
just wise to change your password...this is a off the wall idea but maybe the
staff knows what they are talking about?!?!?!?!?...maybe just a suggestion
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lilmo
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response 208 of 226:
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Sep 12 01:04 UTC 1995 |
Regarding sidhe's comment, as translated by popcorn:
There are reasons we leave certain decisions to "experts"; sinply put,
sometimes we don't have the information to accurately predict the results
of a given policy. Why do you think we have Congress, instead of calling up
a random district resident to vote on each bill? Why do you think that they
have staffs? Why does Congress STILL then leave many of the details to the
executive branch agences that make rules to enforce the law?
We ask them to do these things because we dont' have the time or the
experience needed to do these things ourselves. And yet, if we disagree, we
are not powerless to affect things!!! We can express our discontent, and we
can seek to join our voices ith others who are of the same opinion. These
same options are available on Grex, and you have been exercising them, with
great vigor, I might add. However, I have been able to identify only two ppl
who want things changed badly enugh that they think it is worth the effort
to change it: sidhe and selena. Ajax also disagrees with the policy, but
recognizes that it is such a low priority it shouldn't even be on the radar
screen. Staff, with years of experience, not only on the system, not only
running the system, but also in dealing with the problems caused by insecure
pw's, find that asking users to spend a minute a year working on a very small
piece of system security results in less trouble than dealing with the hours
of downtime caused by crashes due to breaches in system security; not only
for them (staff), but also for us (the users). I am coming up on my annual
change in the not-too-distant future, and while I find it annoying, I
recognize that I have a duty, while on the system, not to be opening up the
sytem, which I SHARE with others, to the dangers, however unlikely, of a
hacker trying to use my acccount to inconvenience others.
set soapbox = off
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rcurl
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response 209 of 226:
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Sep 12 05:04 UTC 1995 |
Kudos! (Say, what would be the plural of kudos?)
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scg
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response 210 of 226:
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Sep 12 06:14 UTC 1995 |
(Kudoses?)
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tsty
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response 211 of 226:
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Sep 12 08:46 UTC 1995 |
isn't kudos already plural?
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rcurl
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response 212 of 226:
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Sep 12 17:03 UTC 1995 |
No, it is from the singular Greek noun kudos meaning fame.
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steve
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response 213 of 226:
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Sep 12 20:56 UTC 1995 |
Thank you Mark. Well said.
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lilmo
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response 214 of 226:
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Sep 13 05:21 UTC 1995 |
Re #209&213: Thank you.
Re #209-212: kudos may come from the Gk sing n 'kydos', but as used in
English, I believe that it is at least construed as plural. (E.g., "many
kudos") *shrug*
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rcurl
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response 215 of 226:
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Sep 13 07:06 UTC 1995 |
It is *used* as plural, because people think there is a "kudo", but
there isn't (or wasn't). So, kudoses to Mark (not to be confused with
Cu doses, or "pennies from heaven").
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lilmo
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response 216 of 226:
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Sep 14 01:57 UTC 1995 |
But we speak English, not Greek. It's whatever we use it as.
On the other hand, does using a plural make any sense? If it means "fame",
does "fames" make sense?
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rcurl
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response 217 of 226:
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Sep 14 03:39 UTC 1995 |
Why not? One speaks of "fame and fortune". If you can have two fortunes,
you can have two fames. You can have several reputations, reputes,
distinctions, honors, laurels....all synonyms.
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lilmo
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response 218 of 226:
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Sep 15 19:43 UTC 1995 |
But you don't say "a fame and a fortune", you speak of them as unquantifiable
concepts. One has (or doesn't have) money, not moneys, for example.
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gracel
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response 219 of 226:
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Sep 17 20:27 UTC 1995 |
Probably the Greeks would say "kude" or not use it in the plural,
but we're not Greeks or even Greex. Let's stick to kudoses.
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davel
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response 220 of 226:
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Sep 17 21:05 UTC 1995 |
Not Greex but Grex.
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lilmo
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response 221 of 226:
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Sep 17 21:51 UTC 1995 |
But kudoses doesn't make sense, does it? When you wish someone luck, and
someone else wishes them lucks, you don't think that the other person offered
more, you think they're crazy !!! *sigh*
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rcurl
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response 222 of 226:
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Sep 18 07:12 UTC 1995 |
There are *many* kinds of luck (including good and bad). Which kind is
just plain "luck"? Maybe like "break a leg" luck?
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lilmo
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response 223 of 226:
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Sep 19 21:33 UTC 1995 |
And there's many kinds of fame, too, but you still dont' wish someone "lucks",
do you??
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rcurl
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response 224 of 226:
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Sep 20 06:06 UTC 1995 |
Why not? I hereby wish you many lucks.
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