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davel
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response 200 of 361:
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May 31 00:55 UTC 1995 |
When we've discussed this in the past, I think there's been a *really*
strong consensus against getting into monitoring ages in that kind of way.
Some are against it for philosophical reasons, others for practical ones.
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selena
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response 201 of 361:
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May 31 05:19 UTC 1995 |
Erotica.. nice ring to it. That would fall under the #1 idea, wouldn't
it? Hmmm..
Now, as for verification to join a cf.. NOnono...
There's alreadt WAY too much dependant on ID around here.
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carson
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response 202 of 361:
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May 31 05:27 UTC 1995 |
Wow. I actually laughed at that last line. Thanks, selena!
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brighn
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response 203 of 361:
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May 31 05:36 UTC 1995 |
Sorry, Carson, I didn't mean to imply that Rob would be forced out of anything
under either plan. I thought he had impled for either plan. He has explicitly
explicitly given consent for either plan now, so it's a moot point, although
I do remove the "ask Rob to more assertive" part... my own opinions showing
through.
I too like the name Erotica. IT would prevent confusion. The question is,
can people be coaxed back into Sexuality? I suppose that would be up to
the FW to advertise and such.
Hokay, jumping trains again. :) With the conf name "Erotica," alias
"Eros" and "Flirt", I propose a new conference for non-serious discussions
of sexual issues, with language not excedding that appropriate to minors,
and including drift, light erotica (As in Stories that Tanntalize in the
Sex conf.), poetry, and other odds and ends. As FW, I would link appropriate
items from the current Sexuality conference. In advertising Erotica,
I will on Rob H's approval, advertise that "the drift has moved so that
Sexuality can get serious again."
Objections? Comments?
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popcorn
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response 204 of 361:
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May 31 11:52 UTC 1995 |
Hm. The word "Erotica" sounds awfully hardcore for a family kind of
system.
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popcorn
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response 205 of 361:
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May 31 11:53 UTC 1995 |
(Other than the conference name, the rest sounds *perfect*!)
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ajax
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response 206 of 361:
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May 31 13:40 UTC 1995 |
Re 204, I'd agree, but I wouldn't say Grex is a family kind of system; I think
of Prodigy as family-oriented, and they achieved that using content censors.
Grex is more like the Internet: diverse and relatively censorship-free.
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brighn
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response 207 of 361:
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May 31 15:18 UTC 1995 |
Possible other names leap to mind:
(1) Eros
(2) Eros and Tantalus
(3) Flirtations and Diversions
(4) Exotica
Whoever's setting this up, choose any of the above, or suggest another.
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bruin
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response 208 of 361:
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May 31 20:57 UTC 1995 |
I vote for (4) Exotica.
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robh
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response 209 of 361:
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May 31 23:11 UTC 1995 |
Exotica sounds good, just be careful, or you'll get dozens of
items talking about that Atom Egoyan movie. >8)
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brighn
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response 210 of 361:
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May 31 23:32 UTC 1995 |
Which movie is that? *chuckle* I actually got "Exotica" from the
companion EP for Soft Cell's first LP (Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret lp and
Non-Stop Exotic Dancing ep)... funny how my fibers works sometimes.
*chuckle*
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adbarr
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response 211 of 361:
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Jun 1 02:30 UTC 1995 |
Hey! Will you just pick a name and let us all join, quick? :) The
suspense is . . . is . . . well, you know.
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brighn
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response 212 of 361:
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Jun 1 03:57 UTC 1995 |
Well, Arnold, you'll have to wait a few more days, because I'm off until
Sunday night...
IT looks like the name is Exotica, though, unless there are major objections
to it. So, unless someone squawks, I guess we're just pending Popcorn/Remmers
action.
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selena
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response 213 of 361:
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Jun 1 04:57 UTC 1995 |
Soft-core? Has anyone here RAED my "tantalising story" in sexuality?
I'd hope we wouldn't get soft like prodigy. We are not here for family
entertainment! We're here to express ourselves openly!
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selena
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response 214 of 361:
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Jun 1 12:14 UTC 1995 |
Another comment- Erotica is a fine name! All the others sound like
an attempt to cater to some imaginary censor-board.
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popcorn
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response 215 of 361:
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Jun 1 15:16 UTC 1995 |
Heh... to me the name "Exotica" conjures up an image of this humongous
encyclopedaic book that my mom has, which talks about zillions of different
houseplants and how to care for them. The book is called "Exotica".
Re 212: Actually, John and I are making our cfadm trainees do all the
cfadm work these days :) , so we're awaiting a final decision (I'm still
not too clear on which conference inherits the old sexuality conference
items) and then action by davel or helmke.
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carson
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response 216 of 361:
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Jun 1 16:22 UTC 1995 |
I think the reason that it's not clear what is supposed to happen is
because there are two conflicting sets of proposals.
Not to be snotty, but I made my proposal first, and I'd like to see
it resolved before any subsequent proposals are.
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ajax
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response 217 of 361:
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Jun 1 16:50 UTC 1995 |
Name wise, exotica sounds nothing like cyberflirtation or sex talk.
How about just call it the sex conf? Erotica would be my next pick;
cyberflirt or cybersex sound a bit unnecessarily limited.
Any the other suggestions for "human sexuality" (or "hsex" for short)
for the other cf? Anybody know what other systems (prodigy, aol, or
whatever) call such areas?
Re #216, of the options in 194, it doesn't make much diff (create
a sex cf & keep the old sex cf as hsex, or create a new hsex cf and
keep the old sex cf). Whichever way it's done, the new cf's FW should
probably link items of interest from the old cf, and the old cf's FW
should remove those from the old cf as they see fit. I suggest letting
FWs of the two cfs decide which way they want to do it, and if they
just can't decide, then bring it back to co-op for a decision.
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carson
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response 218 of 361:
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Jun 1 18:48 UTC 1995 |
re #217: It's the sexUALITY conference, not the sex conference. :)
Other than that, I agree.
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selena
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response 219 of 361:
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Jun 2 03:12 UTC 1995 |
<Selena actually has a flash of insight- go figure> I think I finally get
what's eating carson, here.. Imagine you had a favorite flavor of a
certain brand of ice cream. You loved it, or at least really enjoyed
indulging in it. Then, maybe you go on a diet, who knows, you don't eat
any for a while. One day, a long time later, you decide to have a bowl,
and find that the flavor's changed! So, you write to the manufacturer, and
tell them to get their act together, 'cause this ice cream isn't like the
one you used to enjoy.
Carson, seriously speaking, I want to apologize to you if you've
come back to Sexuality.cf, only to find that what you'd enjoyed had changed,
and that you weren't comfortable with what it now is.
I seriously hope your new HSex.cf is more to what *you* need,
because that's important too. The only thing, really, I had objections to
was how you were complaining in Sexuality.. but, hey, who wouldn't?
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remmers
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response 220 of 361:
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Jun 2 11:27 UTC 1995 |
Re #216: That's correct, it's your proposal that's under discussion
here. I'd suggest that to achieve your goal -- a conference with
serious discussions of sexuality issues and free of cyber-flirting --
it might be easier to start a new, empty sexuality conference rather
than try to coerce a conference that's full of flirting into some
other mode of behavior.
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davel
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response 221 of 361:
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Jun 2 11:41 UTC 1995 |
I think John's right. It may be possible to enter the text of selected
items & selected responses to them as new items in the new conference.
(That is, you can do it - but it may make the items themselves too unweildy
to handle.) If there are any non-drifted items, you can always link them
in.
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selena
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response 222 of 361:
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Jun 2 14:17 UTC 1995 |
And then convert the old cf to "Erotica", in name? Sounds good from
here.
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popcorn
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response 223 of 361:
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Jun 2 14:30 UTC 1995 |
I'm still having a problem with the name "Erotica". To me, the name "sex"
makes me think "a normal human function", while the name "erotica"
conjures up images of peep shows and adult bookstores -- places that are
obligated to keep minors out.
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popcorn
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response 224 of 361:
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Jun 2 14:31 UTC 1995 |
In other words, I'm putting in a vote for calling the cyberflirting
conference something along the lines of "sex" or "cyberflirting", but
not "erotica".
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