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helmke
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response 200 of 256:
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Feb 13 22:03 UTC 1995 |
And I guess the next logical question is that "if they don't know about
Grex, it's their first time in, how are they going to have this program?"
I hadn't thought of that before.
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eldrich
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response 201 of 256:
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Feb 14 00:30 UTC 1995 |
Sorry to interupt your conversation but I have a .cf to propose. Face it the
music .cf is just too big (152 items and counting)! So I propose this:
Alternative the place for chat about Alternative music (or whatever you like to
call it), grunge and all the stuff that goes with it. I can volenteer to FW it
if it flys
Eldrich
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carson
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response 202 of 256:
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Feb 14 03:21 UTC 1995 |
echo #166. ;)
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popcorn
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response 203 of 256:
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Feb 14 04:04 UTC 1995 |
Re 201: Hm. I've heard complaints that the music conference is too
*quiet*. It's one of the oldest conferences on Grex, and it's never
been re-started. Some options you might want to explore:
1) Join the conference and type "fix". This marks all the items in
the conference as if you had already read them. Then type
"read since 2/1/95" (or some other date) to see how much actual activity
the music conference has had in the last few weeks. You might find
that only a few of the items are getting responses.
2) Another option would be to ask the music conference fair witnesses
if they think it's time for the conference to be re-started.
Depending on what's already in the music conference, this might be
a good or a bad idea. For example, if the conference is full of
people talking about very topical issues that quickly become outdated,
there would be no reason to keep those items around for people to
look back at. On the other hand, if the conference is full of
long archival discussions that would be useful for someone to later
look back at, it might make sense to keep the old items around
(and maybe delete some of the topical items that aren't relevant
anymore) and simply start new items to discuss new topics.
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steve
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response 204 of 256:
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Feb 14 04:21 UTC 1995 |
I think that if anything is to be done to music, it should be
restarted. I hope there is enough room for all types of music in
the conference.
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chelsea
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response 205 of 256:
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Feb 15 03:53 UTC 1995 |
Hmmm. And I've often secretly wished classical music could have
its very own conference. No matter how slowly it would grow.
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popcorn
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response 206 of 256:
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Feb 15 04:31 UTC 1995 |
I hear ya. That's kinda how we ended up with a plants conference. I'd
wanted it a lot, for a long time, even though it could well have been
tucked away in the nature conference.
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md
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response 207 of 256:
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Feb 15 16:12 UTC 1995 |
I agree with chelsea. Let's have a classical music conference.
I nominate chelsea as fw. There are some items in the current
music conference that could be linked to classical and then
killed in music. I also agree with chelsea that rate of growth
should not be a concern.
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rcurl
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response 208 of 256:
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Feb 15 17:06 UTC 1995 |
Would anything be done to indicate that the current music cf is no longer
a place to post classical music items? Would it be renamed? Do we really
want to segregate music categories?
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remmers
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response 209 of 256:
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Feb 15 20:35 UTC 1995 |
Since new specialized music conferences are under discussion, I think
that as a courtesy, the fw's of the existing music conference should be
alerted, so that they have an opportunity for input into the
discussion. Not all fw's read coop, nor should they be expected to.
I think such notification should be done whenever a proposed conference
would have significant overlap with a conference that already exists,
and is probably rightly a cfadm job.
Hey, I'm a cfadm aren't I. Guess I'll go mail the music fw's.
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carson
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response 210 of 256:
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Feb 15 22:24 UTC 1995 |
I remember when the music conference was big enough for all of us...
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chelsea
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response 211 of 256:
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Feb 15 22:54 UTC 1995 |
It is big enough for all of us. That has nothing to do with why
I'd appreciate classical music having its own conference. Maybe
one out of every 20 or 30 responses has to do with classical music.
That's a lot of wading to get to something of interest. Now, don't
get me wrong, I like rap, and folk, and alternative, and rock, and
monk music just fine. But here, on Grex, I'm only interested in
discussions on classical music. Mostly, I just want to read Delizia's
responses. ;-)
So, segregating classical music would just be a nice convenience. I'm not
going to champion the cause or get into any down-and-ugly debates about
the thing. But the idea of a classical music conference is appealing and
if others thought so too I'd support the concept.
Michael would make a fine FW.
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popcorn
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response 212 of 256:
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Feb 16 04:53 UTC 1995 |
Hey eldrich? Don't let us drown you out here: what are your
current thoughts about an alternative music conference?
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md
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response 213 of 256:
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Feb 16 13:48 UTC 1995 |
I'm deeply flattered that chelsea wants to read my responses,
and I humbly accept the position of fairwitness of the new
classical mus... [md slaps himself in the face] Oh no you
don't, Mary. I second my nomination of chelsea for fw.
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popcorn
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response 214 of 256:
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Feb 16 15:22 UTC 1995 |
If you definitely do want this conference, you could always both fair
witness it, together....
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rcurl
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response 215 of 256:
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Feb 16 15:52 UTC 1995 |
Not to disagree with the creation of a classical music cf, but if you
just forgot all the non-classical items in music, wouldn't it be a
classical music cf for you?
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sidhe
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response 216 of 256:
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Feb 16 16:15 UTC 1995 |
It probably wouldn't be the same. I'd like a classical music cf,
if it could also include modern orchestral <John Williams, Danny Elfman,
etc>
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rcurl
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response 217 of 256:
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Feb 16 17:14 UTC 1995 |
I'd think it would include whatever users considered classical
(classical chamber, classical 12-note, classical rock...??).
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ajax
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response 218 of 256:
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Feb 16 18:48 UTC 1995 |
Creating classical and alternative music conferences seems about the same as
creating an rpg games conference, being direct subsets of a more general
conference.
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sidhe
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response 219 of 256:
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Feb 16 19:15 UTC 1995 |
so, are you for, or against it, then?
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ajax
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response 220 of 256:
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Feb 17 16:36 UTC 1995 |
No opin, just an observation. Creating subset conferences isn't a new thing.
Two reasons I see for creating subset confs are (1) if the subset topic is a
large chunk of the main conference, so it drowns out other discussion there,
or (2) if it's a tiny chunk of the main conference, so people interested in
just the subset have to wade through a lot of other discussion. The music
subsets seem to fall under category 2.
A reason against subset confs: the main and subset confs may have less
activity combined than the main conference previously had.
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krj
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response 221 of 256:
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Feb 20 03:34 UTC 1995 |
(The surviving music cf fairwitnesses are rubbing their noggins together
and will say something shortly. Arabella is interested in being a FW
of a classical music cf if one develops.)
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lilmo
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response 222 of 256:
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Feb 22 05:42 UTC 1995 |
Suggestion: create a new music cf, link over items with acctive discussion
or of lasting interest, and see if the desire is still there for the new
music genre cf's.
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sidhe
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response 223 of 256:
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Feb 22 13:36 UTC 1995 |
Original idea, but why?
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ajax
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response 224 of 256:
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Feb 22 16:34 UTC 1995 |
The idea behind conference restarts, I think, is that with far fewer
items, new participants have an easier time navigating the many items.
If agora were never restarted, for example, there would be over a thousand
items! A music restart wouldn't solve all the reasons for starting
splinter cf's, but it might help, until it gets big again.
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