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davel
response 20 of 147: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 23:03 UTC 1994

Transoft, Ltd. also uses TSR for Transoft Software Report or something like
that (bug reports etc.).  This overloading is not much of a problem ...
srw
response 21 of 147: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 00:13 UTC 1994

Come to think of it, TSR is the trademark of that D&D company, too.
davel
response 22 of 147: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 11:37 UTC 1994

Thanks for the new header!
cybrspce
response 23 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 15:58 UTC 1994

FTP = File Transfer Protocol   What is FSP??
gibber
response 24 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 16:23 UTC 1994

On Yanoffs ( I think) list there are great many ftp sites listed. How do I
access the[D [D[D[D [D[D[D[D   [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D  



gibber
response 25 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 16:26 UTC 1994

Sorry about that, not sure what happened. Anyway, how do I access these
FTP sites?
remmers
response 26 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 17:45 UTC 1994

(What appears to have happened is that you hit your cursor-left key
a few times to get to an early point in your line of typing.  You'll
have better luck using your "backspace" key instead.)
cybrspce
response 27 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 18:34 UTC 1994

gibber you can also abort the response. Then just choose respond again.
typing help will give you instructions for this :)
Can anyone tell me what FSP is ?
robh
response 28 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 20:53 UTC 1994

I guess nobody's answered gibber's question.  Jamie, you need
to be a member of the Grex cooperative to access ftp from Grex.
"finger danr" for more info.
davel
response 29 of 147: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 01:13 UTC 1994

or !support from any Picospan Ok: or Respond or pass? prompt.
dane
response 30 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 1 21:21 UTC 1994

FSP is another file transfer protocol.  It is actually file stealing protocol. 
With it you don't have to log in to a site.  It only actually connets when you
send a command and then it disconnects.  I THINK that is about right.
bdp
response 31 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 02:07 UTC 1994

I think you can use to FSP to connect to other ports as well.
(you're not stuck to the ftp ports)
rcurl
response 32 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 06:43 UTC 1994

Is there a client for FSP around somewhere (downloadable)?
srw
response 33 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 07:12 UTC 1994

#30 makes it sound a lot like gopher protocol.
Connect-request file-blast file down the pipe-disconnect
rcurl
response 34 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 07:16 UTC 1994

That's how ftp works - with a client.
srw
response 35 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 07:34 UTC 1994

Ummm. Actually I didn't think that was true. I think the two programs
continually handshake over the ftp session. I'm no expert on ftp protocol,
though.
rcurl
response 36 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 2 16:05 UTC 1994

I'm even less of an expert! I'm distinguishing ftping from a telnet
session, where you have to start ftp on the server, and from a client,
where they are no line commands (that one sees). Apparently the telnet
session takes more bandwidth than the client. I recall an archie
server telling me that they were planning on locking out archie via
telnet, and to require client use. But this (fsp?) sounds like taking
it a step further, if you know *exactly* where the file is.
ban
response 37 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 3 00:46 UTC 1994

Well, I am new to this system and very tired but I would like to explain
a little how I think of "cllient-server" (telnet ftp, fsp and so on)
There is Always a server involved in ftp,telnet and fsp.
Therefore you need a client. The protocols are the same up to a certain
level. They all use IP and TCP.
The higher level protocols differ alot.
Telnet just opens a TCP-connection to port 23 on the servermachine.
the server starts a login to that port and thats it.
Ftp is a lot more complicated. If you want to see just what it's about
then telnet to port 21 and type help.
I havn't experimented with fsp alot since it cant be used for
anything practical. I don't know what the advantage would be.
Anyway it seems to connect to a port and use that for both commands and
data(ftp has separate ports)
I see no point in using fsp however since most of the stuff available
is Illegal!
Hope this inspires you to find out more. (man ftpd, ftp, telnet, telnetd
is a good start)
davel
response 38 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 3 10:17 UTC 1994

Thanks, Lars.  Also welcome to Grex.  (And what, if I may ask, is Floorball?
(Just out of curiosity.))
edunckel
response 39 of 147: Mark Unseen   May 10 21:04 UTC 1994

help

mrcove
response 40 of 147: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 19:34 UTC 1994

I am looking for examples of Internet use (especially other than e-mail)
by state and local government agencies.  I am with the Iowa Department 
of Public Safety and we are connected for e-mail, ftp, and telnet access,
but other Iowa state agencies are not.  Consideration is being given to
wider accessibility, and examples of use by state agencies (or local)
other than, of course, universities, would be helpful.

I am aware og the Window on Texas State State Government (telnet window.
texas.gov)  (Sorry - aware of - I can't figure out how to get back to
the previous line to edit my misspelling.) and also have heard of a few
other states whose executive branch agencies are using Internet, but I
have little specific information about these.  Thanks.
gmd131
response 41 of 147: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 23:09 UTC 1994

When on IRC and after /list...how do I get out and get on a channel?
srw
response 42 of 147: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 05:06 UTC 1994

Re #40: Michael, probably one of the best known government efforts
in the use of the internet is the Library of Congress Gopher server.
It can be found at this URL: "gopher://marvel.loc.gov/"

A list of federal government information servers can be found by browsing
URL: "http://www.doc.gov/services/index.html"

State and local governments aren't as far along, but it's encouraging
to see some interest.

You can view these from grex by using our www browser, lynx, but only
if you are a member. My guess is that from your site at ia.gov you
can browse more effectively using Mosaic. 
robh
response 43 of 147: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 13:20 UTC 1994

Re 41 - "/join #channel" and "/leave #channel", not respectively.
direwulf
response 44 of 147: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 15:50 UTC 1994

Greetings all... I have a file called "Beginners Tips to IRC" 
That I have written to help new users get started, and learn commands, etc..
e-mail direwulf here for a copy... :) Hope it helps some of ya... See ya on the
net! -DireWulf-
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