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Grex > Femme > #93: War paint/Face goop/Crud/Makeup Item | |
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iggy
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response 20 of 40:
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Jul 12 13:27 UTC 1998 |
i once saw a demonstration where a woman was getting
makeup tattoed onto her face. yuck! i left...
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mary
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response 21 of 40:
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Jul 12 14:08 UTC 1998 |
Now, why do I think that it would be fun to know that woman? ;-)
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aaron
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response 22 of 40:
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Jul 12 18:03 UTC 1998 |
"Permanent cosmentics" are applied in numerous sittings -- usually,
about three, to get the color right. They last about seven years.
I find it hard to imagine how anybody could sit still while somebody
applied "permament eyeliner".... Sheesh.
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beeswing
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response 23 of 40:
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Jul 13 18:11 UTC 1998 |
Needles near my eyes? Hell no. Last weekend I saw some woman getting her
eyelashes dyed black. Eliminated need for mascara, I guess. I could be a
candidate for that since my lashes are light brown, fading into white. But I am
not about to put permanent dye anywhere near my eyes. Hard to appreciate that
permanent makeup when you've been rendered blind.
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mta
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response 24 of 40:
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Jul 13 23:10 UTC 1998 |
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I doubt it, Audrey. You may apply a lot of sorts of makeup -- but you do it
tastefully and it isn't overwhelming to your features.
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headdoc
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response 25 of 40:
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Jul 14 14:39 UTC 1998 |
thank you for the feedback, Misti. I would really rather not be bothered with
the time, effort and expense of makeup at all, but the difference is very
significant at my age. And I, definitely, look far, far better with makeup
on then without. When my face has color from the sun or tanning ingredients,
I can sometimes, do without foundation, but even then, my skin is a bit
blotchy.
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mta
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response 26 of 40:
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Jul 14 22:20 UTC 1998 |
Yeah, I have the same problem... especially when my rosacea is acting up.
I makeup makes a dramtic difference on me, too. I'm a real "plain-jane" with
my face clean, but reasonably attractive with makeup. Nothing wrong with being
a "plain-jane" of course, except that sometimes I don't want to. ;)
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headdoc
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response 27 of 40:
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Jul 14 23:22 UTC 1998 |
I just last week got diagnosed with Rosacea, myself. I am treating it with
an ointment but after a week, nothing seems to be happening. Even discounting
the rosacea, I have developed spots (brown and red) and an uneveness of
coloring on my face. I bought a powder from Benefit, which, when dusted
lightly across the face, tends to even the color out. But then, I feel like
I have a yellowish caste. Maybe I'm wrong. But, my perception is, I look
the best with a coating of foundation, some rouge and my eyes done. I wish
I didn't believe I looked so much better so I could just wash my face and hair
and go out, but that's not the way it is.
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iggy
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response 28 of 40:
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Jul 15 17:32 UTC 1998 |
roseaca? could you explai/describe it a bit more?
my face had always been 'ruddy/red along the nose and cheeks
in a butterfly like pattern. if i consume any alcohol, it
gets bright red. it looks a bit bumpy-pimply too.
i can see tiny capillaries too.
i'm 33... is this age or roseacea?
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mta
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response 29 of 40:
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Jul 15 23:21 UTC 1998 |
That sounds exactly like rosacea, Chris. You should have your doctor check it
to be sure, but it sure sounds like it. In extreme cases it can infect your
eyes and cause real trouble, so even if not for vanity, it's a real good idea
to treat it.
Audrey, give your treatment 6 - 8 weeks to show any improvement. About 4
years ago I started using Metrogel -- a clear gel type medicine. It took about
8 weeks of daily use to see any improvement, and about a year of treatment
before the results were consistent. Now I use the medicine twice a week or
when I've been exposed to one of my triggers. (For me it's mainly heat,
extreme cold, or a drying wind.)
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headdoc
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response 30 of 40:
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Jul 16 00:06 UTC 1998 |
Yep, that;s the RX I have, Metrogel. Thanks for the encouragement, Misti.
I am applying it twice a day and will try to be patient. My ruddy/red color
is mostly on the tip of my nose and the sides of my nostrils. It looks
exactly the way iggy described it. I also have a milder form on my chin.
It is exacerbated when I drink alcohol, or when I eat very spicy foods or the
weather is very hot or cold. I suggest you see a dermatologist, as Misti
suggested, since it does tend to get worse as you age and if it gets in the
eyes, it can be dangerous. If you have it, it doesn't get better on its own
or with time.
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iggy
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response 31 of 40:
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Jul 16 19:47 UTC 1998 |
do you know what roseacea is, or how one 'gets' it?
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i
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response 32 of 40:
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Jul 16 22:29 UTC 1998 |
I think it's a chronic infection of the blood vessels under the skin on
one's face. (Bacterial, but dunno which one(s).) Not good for the
modeling career, but i'd never heard that it could be dangerous. My
impression is that, like acne, it's not really something you "catch"
so much as something some people tend to have at certain ages.
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mta
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response 33 of 40:
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Jul 16 23:03 UTC 1998 |
My understanding is that rosacea has a genetic component, and though the
standard prescription (Metrogel) is an anti-biotic, my understanding is that
doctors aren't sure *why* it works. It does have something to do with strange
circulation in the face, though.
Rosacea, as long as it stays in your skin, is disfiguring but not dangerous. (
W.C. Fields was perhaps the best known person to have visible rosacea -- and
thanks to him it's often mistakenly called "drunkards nose")
But if it spreads to your eyes, which it can if left untreated, it can cost you
your eyesight.
Also, as Audrey says, it doesn't go away if left untreated the way acne does.
It gets worse every time you're exposed to one of your triggers, and after a
while it spreads and becomes permanent. But the medicines they have developed
to treat it are very effective if used consistently -- so much so that after
four years of treatment the only visible symptom I have left is the enlarged
veins in my cheeks and nose. The bumps and redness are pretty much gone.
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headdoc
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response 34 of 40:
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Jul 17 01:17 UTC 1998 |
Iggy, I have a brochure from my dermatologist on Rosacea which I will
photocopy and send to you via the US postal service if you e-mail me your
address. It will tell you everything you need to know, and also help you
decide if what you have resembles it.
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mta
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response 35 of 40:
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Jul 17 02:44 UTC 1998 |
This brings up an ongoing question for me.
It's rude to comment on someone's complexion. It just is. But is ther any
polite way to tell someone with obvious, apparently treatable rosacea that
their condition is treatable?
I know I would have given my left arm to have someone tell me what was going
on with my face years before the irreversable damage was done. (The
dermatologist was useless -- he put me on tretinoin ointment which only made
matters worse.
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headdoc
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response 36 of 40:
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Jul 17 12:41 UTC 1998 |
That's a good point, since I must have had this disorder for years and years
and just got it diagnosed last week. I always thought it was just my
complexion and bad luck. I even have a patient who had it diagnosed and told
me all about it, but her case was so much more noticeable then mine, I never
put two and two together. I have been seeing a dermatologist for other things
and he never mentioned Rosecea to me. I just changed dermatologists (didn't
like the personality or attitutde of the one I had been using) and the new
one mentioned it, first visit. Sometimes, even with MD's you have to ask
before they tell you. This new MD even examined my face, arms and neck for
malanomas without my asking. When I asked my previous MD to check me out for
that, he got annoyed at me. ad if I was asking for something superfluous or
irrelevant. Sheeesh!
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i
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response 37 of 40:
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Jul 18 15:53 UTC 1998 |
Most people seem to treat doctors like some kind of mortal gods. They
should be treated like auto mechanics. There're big differences between
the good ones and the bad ones, how well they communicate works varies a
great deal, and switching around & getting second opinions often pays off.
Don't be content being in the dark about your medical condition because
"the doctor knows what he's doing", either. There was a study a few years
back of doctors who lost major malpractice cases. (I'm assuming that you
- or your estate - *really* don't want to wind up a "winner" this way.)
The study didn't find any correlation between a doctor's academic ranking
(how high he finished in his class at how fancy a med school, certification
in specialties, etc.). But there WAS a big correlation with how well the
doctor communicated with patients - doctors who communicated poorly with
their patients wound up in front of juries that judged them guilty of
malpractice much more often.
It's your life and health at stake, not the doctor's.
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otter
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response 38 of 40:
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Jul 24 01:20 UTC 1998 |
I couldn't agree more. Too few people view themselves as comsumers of medical
services.
When we moved back to Kalamazoo, I interviewed six doctors before finding my
current DO. Doing the same paperwork over and over again was a drag, but
finding someone who said, "What do you think might be causing this?" was well
worth it.
Back to makeup: I'm more concerned with skin care than cosmetics, but I did
like the "canvas" comment above. That's the way I feel about it; it's like
decorating yourself. Even if I decide not to go with cosmetics, I wear
foundation for protection from junk that breaks me out and from the sun. (The
stuff I use is SPF8.)
Having big, bold features, I'm one of those that can get away with things like
blue eyeshadow (not too heavy) and major lipstick. It's fun.
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iggy
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response 39 of 40:
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Jul 24 17:42 UTC 1998 |
i recieved a copy of the rosacea from headdoc. it looks like i
have it...
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iggy
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response 40 of 40:
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Apr 21 17:46 UTC 1999 |
ahh, an update. i finally got my butt to the doctor and
i am being treated now for roseacea.
due to a couple other things, as a 'just in case but it probably isnt'
i was tested for lupus. i'll find out next week when the results are in.
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