response 3 of 92:

Nov 8 07:13 UTC 2003

Yep, during wartime bad things happen.  This is nothing new, has been
going on for awhile now.  In the specific individual case it is no less
sad.  The kid looked like a duck, walked like a duck, quacked like a
duck, and was in a flock of what looked like ducks to a group of yids
(rhymes) hunting for ducks and he got shot.  No surprise there.

Make no mistake, this is wartime there.  

WHen the author of #0 enters an item about the 10 year old yid (rhyme)
who dies during a homicide bombing by the PLA kid with equal evocative
detail then (s)he will at least seem evenhanded but even then what is
the f-ing point?  War is not good for small children?  Well, duh!
During a war people die?  No duh! 

I mean, why is this even news?  Duh! 

response 5 of 92:

Nov 8 08:30 UTC 2003

bad parents - failed t teach your children well ... sad, very sad

response 7 of 92:

Nov 8 09:33 UTC 2003

His parents if they were smart and if they lived near fences where one
would be shot dead by a tank for going near if they was at all
interested in raising children instead of 'martyrs' probably would have
taught him such about what when he began to walk.  Its not rocket
science you know.  The Yids shoot at what looks like ducks so don't look
like a duck.  Duh.

Think of it as evolution in action.

response 11 of 92:

Nov 8 21:40 UTC 2003

"Outside" is pretty big and one's odds of being raped pretty low.
Would pvn let his daughter walk alone at night in some dark corner
of Central Park?  I don't think so.

Let me remind you of the words of Shimon Peres, formerly a Prime
Minister of Israel and most recently the foreign minister:

||  In war, mistakes will happen.
||  But the greatest mistake is in going to war.


Obviously, Lynne, we can't speak specifically about the parents of
this child. It may well have been tragic. But recall the episode of
12-year-old intifada poster-boy Mohammed al-Dura?  We may never know
if his father was in on it, but evidence suggests that the child's murder
was staged in front of TV cameras in an effort to frame Israel.

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/06/fallows.htm

Then there are the parents who upon the death of one child express the hope
that all their children will become martyrs.

And PA ads on official government TV, showing forged film footage depicting
al-Dura being intentionally shot by Israeli troops, his voice calling out
for other children to put down their toys in favor of weapons and join him.

And editorials in official papers saying that those who oppose the use of
children in the struggle are traitors who should be treated as "collaborators".

School textbooks don't mention the peace process, don't show Israel on the map
(it's all "Palestine"), and repeat the mantra that Israel must be destroyed
and that the only good Jew is a dead Jew (OK, I'm slightly exaggerating on
the last).  [www.edume.org]

Is it any wonder that some 10-year olds pick up a rusty old rifle and go to
attack Israelis?  That these children are then shot by Israeli troops who
don't know that the rifle won't fire and who don't know if the child is
booby-trapped with explosives to be detonated if they use non-lethal force?

Can the adults really claim that he did this of his own volition?
(As if this just goes to show us how horrible is the Israeli "oppression"?)

Let me tell you another "non-secret". Most of the "militants" are in their
teenage years or early 20s. For most of the last 10 years they've lived
under the dictatorship of Arafat (Israel had withdrawn from the areas
where 98% of the Arab population of the disputed territories resides).
Their formative years were not under Israeli "occupation" or "oppression"
and these are not the "root causes" for their terrorism.

response 13 of 92:

Nov 9 03:19 UTC 2003

lk, maybe you should have read the next month's issue of the Atlantic, 
in which a debunking of the al-Dura (God bless his soul) article is 
published.

response 17 of 92:

Nov 9 17:38 UTC 2003

lk, he was being sarcastic, which is better than you being disingenous.

response 19 of 92:

Nov 9 19:32 UTC 2003

For the record, I will clarify that I was being sarcastic, lk. 
Civilians should be able to go about their lives. Whether its lazing in 
cafes by the roadside or trapping birds for their livelihood. 

The majority of palestinian deaths have been of so-called militants. 
Who's to judge?? I guess only Israelis armed forces!!

response 21 of 92:

Nov 10 08:04 UTC 2003

Who is to judge whether they really were terrorists?

response 25 of 92:

Nov 11 10:12 UTC 2003

either gunfire or rocket fire .. pay attentin to the news ....