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tod
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response 197 of 331:
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Feb 28 22:56 UTC 2006 |
I tend to find illegal drugs to be a horrid problem in this country, and
what's sad is that I have no real clue as to how to go about ending it.
The country or the epidemic? >:)
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rcurl
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response 198 of 331:
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Feb 28 23:04 UTC 2006 |
Re #188: I think it was usually cocaine.
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edina
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response 199 of 331:
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Feb 28 23:07 UTC 2006 |
Re 196 They cause problems in my life indirectly as I volunteer with three
kids whose parents are meth addicts.
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nharmon
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response 200 of 331:
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Feb 28 23:13 UTC 2006 |
I think if drugs were legalized, they would lose their appeal to the
rebel burnouts and probably not be a problem any more. Of course, you'll
always have people who sniff gasoline and choke themselves.
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scholar
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response 201 of 331:
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Feb 28 23:46 UTC 2006 |
Re. 199: Volunteering for a position that is set up to have you deal with
people who have problems with something is hardly going to give you a very
good idea of how it works when someone doesn't have a problem with that thing!
Nonetheless, we can be sure that the real problem here is BAD PARENTING. The
parents of these children had a CHOICE to use methamphetamine in whatever way
has caused their children trouble. Such people would be bad parents,
regardless of how much 'methamphetamine' (whatever THAT is) they've smoked.
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cyklone
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response 202 of 331:
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Feb 28 23:54 UTC 2006 |
Richard, please shut up. Everytime you post something you set back the cause
of liberalism with your demonstrations of ignorance. And BTW, I think
"psoriasis of the liver" is easily cured. Just chug a bottle of shampoo. Or
in your case, anti-freeze.
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scholar
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response 203 of 331:
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Mar 1 00:32 UTC 2006 |
:(
I'm a terrible person. :(
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richard
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response 204 of 331:
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Mar 1 01:24 UTC 2006 |
re #202 uh, obviously meant cirrosis of the liver. I was typing too
fast before.
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richard
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response 205 of 331:
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Mar 1 01:26 UTC 2006 |
And I agree with edina that there really is no good solution to the
drug problem. I also agree with what someone else posted, that there
is a culture surrounding drugs where part of the attraction is the
drugs being illegal, and hard to get. Legalize it and you take away
some of the mystique
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mcnally
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response 206 of 331:
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Mar 1 01:41 UTC 2006 |
re #204: having goofed once, I'd've looked it up the second time.
"cirrhosis" has an "h" in it..
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scholar
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response 207 of 331:
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Mar 1 01:47 UTC 2006 |
fo shure
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richard
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response 208 of 331:
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Mar 1 01:53 UTC 2006 |
re #206 it can be spelled either way.
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slynne
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response 209 of 331:
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Mar 1 02:16 UTC 2006 |
resp:185 It looks like a prescription heroin program is being started in
Vancouver so I guess we might all get to find out if heroin junkies
function better than alcoholics or other drug addicts. Based on past
heroin prescription programs, I think there is at least some evidence to
support that.
Personally, I think that most substances should be legal but also that
some effort should go into educating people about the actual
consequences of taking drugs (including over the counter drugs,
nicotine, caffeine, etc. I think some recreational drugs should be sold
under similar regulations as alcohol and others, perhaps, should only be
available by prescription.
Legalizing drugs will not make the drug problem go away any more than
legalizing alcohol has made alcohol problems go away. What it would do
is free up a lot of resources that are currently being devoted to
enforcing drug laws. It also would allow for more regulation of
substances. But trust me, there will still be a lot of abuse and
addiction.
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slynne
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response 210 of 331:
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Mar 1 02:17 UTC 2006 |
Oops, I forgot a link to the news story about Vancouver's heroin
program:
http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2054.cfm
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jep
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response 211 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:15 UTC 2006 |
There is a level at which I'd like to see both recrational drugs and
prostitution be legal. If they were both legal for truly consenting
adults, who would be presumed to understand the risks and be
responsible for the consequences, and could be kept away from those too
young for those things, I would favor legalization.
But that's not the world I live in. Drug dealers *target* young
people. Drugs are probably more available in schools than anywhere
else.
Prostitution is a very seamy, dark business in which the youngest and
the most innocent are in the most demand. Children are brought into
prostitution by being misled, by being given addicting drugs, or by
straightforward abduction. They're used up and discarded when they're
too old and broken to be fun any more. They don't keep any of the
money they bring in. If they manage to escape, they are tracked down
and forced to go back, or they are killed. I think you'd have to be
pretty naive (or pretty callous) to want to legalize prostitution.
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keesan
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response 212 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:18 UTC 2006 |
Isn't it legal in Nevada?
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jep
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response 213 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:22 UTC 2006 |
Someone up there said prostitution is now legal in just a couple of
counties in Nevada.
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johnnie
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response 214 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:35 UTC 2006 |
>Prostitution is a very seamy, dark business in which the youngest and
>the most innocent are in the most demand.
In the most demand, or the most vulnerable and therefore the easiest and
most profitable to supply? The argument in favor of legalisation would
be (I imagine) that customers would opt for the legal and safer option,
thereby cutting out the middleman, and reducing demand for and supply of
the currently lucrative younger ones.
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richard
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response 215 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:44 UTC 2006 |
re #209 prescription heroin makes sense since you can and always have been
able to prescribe morphine. thats like making scotch legal and vodka illegal.
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jep
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response 216 of 331:
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Mar 1 15:49 UTC 2006 |
I don't think it's deniable that, in America, younger women are
considered more attractive as sex symbols.
I've never had dealings with a prostitute. I am extending what I know
into an area about which I don't have direct knowledge, and
*speculating* that prostitutes who are young women and adolescent girls
are likely to bring a higher price than a mature adult. This
hypothesis makes so much sense to me that I am going to indulge myself
and consider it as a fact until and unless someone can give me reason
to do otherwise.
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richard
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response 217 of 331:
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Mar 1 16:16 UTC 2006 |
jep in europe that is in america, in europe they prefer older women.
also men can be prostitutes too, ever see "American Gigolo"
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slynne
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response 218 of 331:
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Mar 1 16:20 UTC 2006 |
resp:211 Obviously some drug dealers target kids. But to you think that
would be worse if drugs were legal. You see, in black markets like the
market for illegal drugs, the sorts of people who get involved on the
supply side of things might be....criminals.
Now, I would make an argument that that making drugs legal would reduce
their availability in schools. Except, based on how available alcohol
is, I dont think that is probably true. I dont think a drug's legal
status affects the supplies of it in schools as much as people might
like to think.
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johnnie
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response 219 of 331:
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Mar 1 16:30 UTC 2006 |
>*speculating* that prostitutes who are young women and adolescent girls
>are likely to bring a higher price than a mature adult.
My guess (wink wink) would be that price depends mostly on category.
Streetwalkers would be in a low price range, "massage" parlors and
"escort" services higher, private word-of-mouth clients most expensive.
I would imagine that, within those categories, youth and beauty do
indeed carry a higher price tag. My guess, too, would be that underage
prostitutes are most likely to work the street, rather than in
quasi-legal business front operations which would theoretically need a
minimum age for employment to reduce the threat of prosecution. Hence
then, I suppose, the argument that if you legalize prostitution and give
customers a legal place to go, you'd largely eliminate the street crowd
and therefore the biggest supply of underage prostitutes.
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keesan
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response 220 of 331:
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Mar 1 16:30 UTC 2006 |
I think morphine is legal (by prescription) because it blocks pain without
also causing mental changes (except for making you very sleepy for a day
afterwards), and people are unlikely to use it as a soporific when there are
drugs with fewer side effects. The side effects of heroin are why it is
popular.
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richard
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response 221 of 331:
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Mar 1 16:37 UTC 2006 |
I think if prostitution was legalized and regulated, as it is in some places
where "sex workers" must be licensed and pass regular health/aids tests, and
the industry limited to certain areas, some of these problems wouldnt be
there. In any industry that has no controls you are going to have employees
being abused. Children get abused in sweatshops making clothing, does that
mean clothing factories should be illegal? No, they just need to be regulated
properly as they are in this country.
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