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keesan
response 197 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 02:56 UTC 2000

Thanks for all the info.  Is RealPlayer G2 the one that will not work with
Win31?  I don't have room on my hard drive for Win95 (or a whole lot of
interest in learning to use it).  The site told me, on the same page, that
I had successfully chosen Blues, while just below that it displayed Mozart
etc.  I may try again some day, after getting the neighbor to come over with
his Win95 CD and install it on an empty computer with a CD-ROM drive.  
Possibly my browser (Netscape 3) could not handle the site properly. 
(Netscape 4 takes up too much space).  Hopefully other grexers will benefit
from your instructions.  
keesan
response 198 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 02:58 UTC 2000

My modem is 28K - works on a few RealAudio stations.  I think I was using
Realaudio 4.  Crashed so often that I gave up.  RealAudio blames it on the
Shiva dialer.  I really need different hardware and software if I am going
to continue this experiment.
keesan
response 199 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 03:50 UTC 2000

From: tuomas leikola <tobo@sci.fi>

if you want to stream with windows, you can use winplay3 16bit, if you still
can find it somewhere.. the 16-bit version is a lot faster than the 32-bit
version, and it supports m3u files (not pls files, you will have to extract
the url yourself.)

the key number should not be hard to find, at days mp3 players were a new
thing (back on 486) winplay3 was the only considerable player there was :)


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What is a m3u file?  A pls file?  A key number?  Has anyone in this conf
listened to streaming mp3s with win31?

keesan
response 200 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 16:25 UTC 2000

I could find only Winplay3 for Win95.
dbratman
response 201 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:48 UTC 2000

I have come across more comments (I think they were on Usenet 
somewhere) by people who found the Sonicnet interface hard to 
understand and impossible to use.  I have no idea why they (and you) 
are having problems while I, with an Athlon chip but only a 56K modem 
on an ordinary phone line, find it works perfectly every time.  I've 
been on the other side of disputes like this (for instance, I can never 
get superglue to stick to anything), so I know how frustrating it can 
be.
n8nxf
response 202 of 210: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 13:56 UTC 2000

Not even your fingers?
keesan
response 203 of 210: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 23:01 UTC 2001

Maybe you need a 56K modem to get it to work?  I used my fastest, a 33K.
It probably would not have sounded so good anyway.
dbratman
response 204 of 210: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 21:19 UTC 2001

It doesn't even sound so hot at 56K, its biggest problem.  I think of 
it as AM radio, which doesn't sound terrific either.  Having found on 
occasion that songs I enjoyed on the car radio sounded terrible with CD 
quality and no background noise, I'm not upset about this.
keesan
response 205 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 21:07 UTC 2001

Sonicnet just replieed (my help equest went astray).  Their online system
rquirements (under Help) call for Realplayer G2, which I think requires Win95,
which I do not have.  They also suggest a DSL line, a fast Pentium, 64M RAM,
etc.  Will see if Arachne will play streaming MP3 - there are hints to that
effect in the latest version.  The tech support also suggested hooking up the
computer to my stereo system for better-than-radio sound.  
dbratman
response 206 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 21:16 UTC 2001

DSL you don't need.  I know that because I don't have it at home.  I 
have those other things, though (except I have an AMD Athlon, not a 
*ych pfu* Pentium) [religious wars, never mind]
keesan
response 207 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 02:57 UTC 2001

It sounds like all you really need is Win95 (to handle RealAudio G2) and 16M
RAM and a 28K modem, and a fast 486.  We were listening to Realaudio G2 on
this combination before.  I hate to bother installing 60M Win95, then Dialup
Networking, then 15M download of Netscape 4 (expands to 28M), but we have
enough comptuers that I could sacrifice one just for that.  Or listen to LPs.
krj
response 208 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 01:56 UTC 2001

News item from zdnet.com and wsj.com.  A company called "Supertracks"
has an idea for improving the profitability of Internet radio.  
According to the article, Supertracks claim that the costs of 
streaming radio are so high that a user who listens to high-quality
sound for 1.5 hours per day costs the webcaster $81 per year.
Their solution?  They figure you listen to the same songs over 
and over again anyway, so they download a library of 400 songs to 
your computer and then only the play order has to be sent out from
the central office.  They say they'll swap out 100 songs per month.
This is supposed to cut the cost to $15 per listener.
mcnally
response 209 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 04:29 UTC 2001

  I've only recently been experimenting more with Internet radio but
  so far I find it dramatically preferable to broadcast stations..

  While Supertracks' suggestion may be technically sound, I can't
  imagine it working out very well with clearance from the record labels.
krj
response 210 of 210: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 03:13 UTC 2001

Just finished up two evenings of streaming Real Audio world music 
programs onto, um, cassette.  How low tech, but I have the hardware and
it plays nice in the car.   I find that the stream speed which Real Audio
negotiates varies with the time of day: during the business day I can't
get much better than 11K, which is sub-AM quality, but starting around
4 or 5 I can usually get 96K, which is just a little sub-FM with artifacts,
and after 7 pm I can get 96K reliably.  I don't know if the bottleneck
is at my end, at the program source, or on the network backbones.
 
Approximately eight more CDs which I must find.  Now I'm looking for 
a source for Italian political rap CDs.  

This stuff is at http://www.wen.com, and the best shows are hosted by 
Ian (not jethro tull) Anderson and Charlie Gillett.  I've ranted about
how wonderful this stuff is before.
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