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25 new of 331 responses total.
edina
response 195 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 22:54 UTC 2006

Re 192  True.  Which is why you can't buy more than two boxes of sudafed at
at time here in AZ now.  Meth is a *huge* problem out here, and it's only a
matter of time before it's going full tilt, nationwide.  Heck, on the cover
of my hometown newspaper (The Tecumseh Herald), there was an article about
a meth lab being busted.  

I tend to find illegal drugs to be a horrid problem in this country, and
what's sad is that I have no real clue as to how to go about ending it.  
scholar
response 196 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 22:55 UTC 2006

what problems do you envision methamphetamine causing you?
tod
response 197 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 22:56 UTC 2006

 I tend to find illegal drugs to be a horrid problem in this country, and
 what's sad is that I have no real clue as to how to go about ending it.
The country or the epidemic? >:)
rcurl
response 198 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 23:04 UTC 2006

Re #188: I think it was usually cocaine.
edina
response 199 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 23:07 UTC 2006

Re 196  They cause problems in my life indirectly as I volunteer with three
kids whose parents are meth addicts.
nharmon
response 200 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 23:13 UTC 2006

I think if drugs were legalized, they would lose their appeal to the
rebel burnouts and probably not be a problem any more. Of course, you'll
always have people who sniff gasoline and choke themselves.
scholar
response 201 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 23:46 UTC 2006

Re. 199:  Volunteering for a position that is set up to have you deal with
people who have problems with something is hardly going to give you a very
good idea of how it works when someone doesn't have a problem with that thing!

Nonetheless, we can be sure that the real problem here is BAD PARENTING.  The
parents of these children had a CHOICE to use methamphetamine in whatever way
has caused their children trouble.  Such people would be bad parents,
regardless of how much 'methamphetamine' (whatever THAT is) they've smoked.
cyklone
response 202 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 23:54 UTC 2006

Richard, please shut up. Everytime you post something you set back the cause
of liberalism with your demonstrations of ignorance. And BTW, I think
"psoriasis of the liver" is easily cured. Just chug a bottle of shampoo. Or
in your case, anti-freeze.
scholar
response 203 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 00:32 UTC 2006

 :(

I'm a terrible person.  :(
richard
response 204 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 01:24 UTC 2006

re #202 uh, obviously meant cirrosis of the liver.  I was typing too 
fast before.
richard
response 205 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 01:26 UTC 2006

And I agree with edina that there really is no good solution to the 
drug problem.  I also agree with what someone else posted, that there 
is a culture surrounding drugs where part of the attraction is the 
drugs being illegal, and hard to get.  Legalize it and you take away 
some of the mystique 
mcnally
response 206 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 01:41 UTC 2006

 re #204:  having goofed once, I'd've looked it up the second time.
 "cirrhosis" has an "h" in it..
scholar
response 207 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 01:47 UTC 2006

fo shure
richard
response 208 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 01:53 UTC 2006

re #206 it can be spelled either way.
slynne
response 209 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 02:16 UTC 2006

resp:185 It looks like a prescription heroin program is being started in
Vancouver so I guess we might all get to find out if heroin junkies
function better than alcoholics or other drug addicts. Based on past
heroin prescription programs, I think there is at least some evidence to
support that. 

Personally, I think that most substances should be legal but also that
some effort should go into educating people about the actual
consequences of taking drugs (including over the counter drugs,
nicotine, caffeine, etc. I think some recreational drugs should be sold
under similar regulations as alcohol and others, perhaps, should only be
available by prescription. 

Legalizing drugs will not make the drug problem go away any more than
legalizing alcohol has made alcohol problems go away. What it would do
is free up a lot of resources that are currently being devoted to
enforcing drug laws. It also would allow for more regulation of
substances. But trust me, there will still be a lot of abuse and
addiction. 
slynne
response 210 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 02:17 UTC 2006

Oops, I forgot a link to the news story about Vancouver's heroin
program:

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2054.cfm
jep
response 211 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:15 UTC 2006

There is a level at which I'd like to see both recrational drugs and 
prostitution be legal.  If they were both legal for truly consenting 
adults, who would be presumed to understand the risks and be 
responsible for the consequences, and could be kept away from those too 
young for those things, I would favor legalization.

But that's not the world I live in.  Drug dealers *target* young 
people.  Drugs are probably more available in schools than anywhere 
else.

Prostitution is a very seamy, dark business in which the youngest and 
the most innocent are in the most demand.  Children are brought into 
prostitution by being misled, by being given addicting drugs, or by 
straightforward abduction.  They're used up and discarded when they're 
too old and broken to be fun any more.  They don't keep any of the 
money they bring in.  If they manage to escape, they are tracked down 
and forced to go back, or they are killed.  I think you'd have to be 
pretty naive (or pretty callous) to want to legalize prostitution.
keesan
response 212 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:18 UTC 2006

Isn't it legal in Nevada?
jep
response 213 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:22 UTC 2006

Someone up there said prostitution is now legal in just a couple of 
counties in Nevada.
johnnie
response 214 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:35 UTC 2006

>Prostitution is a very seamy, dark business in which the youngest and 
>the most innocent are in the most demand. 

In the most demand, or the most vulnerable and therefore the easiest and
most profitable to supply?  The argument in favor of legalisation would
be (I imagine) that customers would opt for the legal and safer option,
thereby cutting out the middleman, and reducing demand for and supply of
the currently lucrative younger ones.   
richard
response 215 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:44 UTC 2006

re #209 prescription heroin makes sense since you can and always have been
able to prescribe morphine.  thats like making scotch legal and vodka illegal.
jep
response 216 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:49 UTC 2006

I don't think it's deniable that, in America, younger women are 
considered more attractive as sex symbols.

I've never had dealings with a prostitute.  I am extending what I know 
into an area about which I don't have direct knowledge, and 
*speculating* that prostitutes who are young women and adolescent girls 
are likely to bring a higher price than a mature adult.  This 
hypothesis makes so much sense to me that I am going to indulge myself 
and consider it as a fact until and unless someone can give me reason 
to do otherwise.
richard
response 217 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 16:16 UTC 2006

jep in europe that is in america, in europe they prefer older women.

also men can be prostitutes too, ever see "American Gigolo"
slynne
response 218 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 16:20 UTC 2006

resp:211 Obviously some drug dealers target kids. But to you think that
would be worse if drugs were legal. You see, in black markets like the
market for illegal drugs, the sorts of people who get involved on the
supply side of things might be....criminals.

Now, I would make an argument that that making drugs legal would reduce
their availability in schools. Except, based on how available alcohol
is, I dont think that is probably true. I dont think a drug's legal
status affects the supplies of it in schools as much as people might
like to think. 
johnnie
response 219 of 331: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 16:30 UTC 2006

>*speculating* that prostitutes who are young women and adolescent girls 
>are likely to bring a higher price than a mature adult.

My guess (wink wink) would be that price depends mostly on category. 
Streetwalkers would be in a low price range, "massage" parlors and
"escort" services higher, private word-of-mouth clients most expensive.
I would imagine that, within those categories, youth and beauty do
indeed carry a higher price tag.  My guess, too, would be that underage
prostitutes are most likely to work the street, rather than in
quasi-legal business front operations which would theoretically need a
minimum age for employment to reduce the threat of prosecution.  Hence
then, I suppose, the argument that if you legalize prostitution and give
customers a legal place to go, you'd largely eliminate the street crowd
and therefore the biggest supply of underage prostitutes.
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