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twinkie
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response 19 of 104:
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Jul 18 10:53 UTC 2000 |
re: 17 -- Yeah, he looked like a used car salesman, and was always making
innuendos about his gun.
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jerryr
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response 20 of 104:
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Jul 18 11:08 UTC 2000 |
from the net:
Latest Official News
HomeGround fanzine report in their Summer 2000 issue that "Kate is continuing
to work steadily on a new album". However they say that "the most realistic
forecasts for a release date at this point is the latter part of next year".
As previously reported Kate began writing and demoing songs for a new album
in early 1999. She has had her recording studio serviced and upgraded and
recording was expected to have began before Christmas '99. Kate is reported
to be "happy and full of energy". In the meantime EMI will release remastered
and repackaged CDs of the remainder of Kate's album catalogue as with 1997's
Hounds Of Love reissue, starting with The Sensual World in September 2000,
The Red Shoes in the early new year, The Dreaming and Never For Ever in Spring
2001, and finally Lionheart and The Kick Inside in late Spring/Summer 2001.
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mcnally
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response 21 of 104:
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Jul 18 19:59 UTC 2000 |
Kate Bush must have sole a *lot* more records in Britain than the U.S.
to qualify as one of "Britain's Wealtiest Rock Stars."
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I'm not even sure why, but Peter Gabriel is, for me, one of those artists
who has crossed over the line from "Oh! A new {insert artist name} album!
I must buy it immediately!" to "I'll have to hear it first." Doubly so
when the release in question concerns an expensive import of unknown
material..
Buy.com lists an import release called "Millennium Show" for $21.95 but
says its status is "On Order". The details page is blank, which is somewhat
typical for that site..
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lelande
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response 22 of 104:
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Jul 18 21:14 UTC 2000 |
resp:17
i remember him showering with the gun in its holster. i think that was a
shot used in the opening sequence.
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krj
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response 23 of 104:
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Jul 18 21:39 UTC 2000 |
As for Kate's status among the wealthy British rockers --
1) she wasn't *that* high on the list
2) she was reported to have no bad spending habits, in fact no noted
spending habits at all except her home studio.
So yeah, if you sell at Kate Bush's level over six albums and 20 years,
and hardly spend any of it, the money makes a tidy pile.
I think there were 100 British rock stars on the list. Paul McCartney
was on top with an estimated net worth of 500 million UK pounds; I think
Mick Jagger and Elton John were #2 and #3. I'll see if I can dig out
the issue of Q magazine.
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brighn
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response 24 of 104:
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Jul 19 20:57 UTC 2000 |
Can we get back to Peter Gabriel? Kate Bush turns my stomach, and the fact
that she sang on one of my favorite Gabriel tracks (no, NOT "Don't Give Up,"
which has Bush's typical whine to it) doesn't help my opinion of her.
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mcnally
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response 25 of 104:
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Jul 19 21:03 UTC 2000 |
I'm not a big Kate Bush fan, either..
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otaking
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response 26 of 104:
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Jul 20 00:36 UTC 2000 |
Re #24: brighn, was it "Just Another Day"? I have a live recording of Gabriel
and Bush singing that together.
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krj
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response 27 of 104:
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Jul 20 05:57 UTC 2000 |
Peter Gabriel's peak for me remains his third and fourth albums,
titled "Peter Gabriel" and "Peter Gabriel" respectively. For years
I had heard that the sound quality on the UK versions of those CDs
was better than the domestic releases, so I was delighted to have
Leslie bring me back copies of PG3 and PG4 from Austria in 1999.
I've played them a fair bit in the intervening year, and those two albums
have held up pretty well, 20 years on.
Part of the unusual sound of PG3 is that Gabriel had the cymbals
removed from the drum kit.
Curiously, I have never had any interest in following Gabriel's career
back into the band Genesis, and I really don't know why I picked up his
first solo album in the late 1970s; probably there was a rave review in
Rolling Stone, which I followed pretty closely in those days.
And the second album was a massive disappointment: except for the song
"DIY," I can't remember a thing about it. Wasn't going to get the third
album at all, but I took a chance on a used copy when an acquaintance
was liquidating his LP collection (because he had converted to a
church which taught that rock was the Devil's work). I brought it home
and immediately decided I had acquired a masterpiece.
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Buried in a review on amazon.com I found a description of what's in the
second disc of the "limited edition" of OVO. "Rappers Neneh Cherry
and Rasco appear in the bonus disc, accompanying PG in telling the
story of OVO." OK, I probably don't need the limited edition.
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brighn
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response 28 of 104:
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Jul 20 05:57 UTC 2000 |
Actually, Bush does the female bits in the background of "Games Without
Frontiers." It's minimal enough that I can ignore it. =}
(I believe all she sings is "Jeux sans frontieres" several times)
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brighn
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response 29 of 104:
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Jul 20 06:01 UTC 2000 |
Prsonally, my favorites PG album is PG3, the one with Games with Frontiers,
Biko, etc.
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orinoco
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response 30 of 104:
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Jul 20 16:57 UTC 2000 |
<sudden flash of insight>
Biko? _Peter Gabriel_ did that song? Interesting.....
That really isn't anything like the Genesis I've heard....I guess that's the
point.
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mcnally
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response 31 of 104:
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Jul 20 19:34 UTC 2000 |
re #27: OK, so he had the cymbals and Phil Collins removed from the
drum set. Anything else?
Peter Gabriel 3 is a great album. "Security" (aka PG4) is also very good.
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gypsi
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response 32 of 104:
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Jul 20 19:36 UTC 2000 |
Peter Gabriel = musical genius
Phil Collins = annoying pop musician
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mcnally
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response 33 of 104:
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Jul 20 20:09 UTC 2000 |
It's more complicated than that, actually.. Collins really is a good
drummer, and his pop music is pretty good for pop music if you like that
kind of stuff (I generally don't, but it's not fair to dismiss him just
because I don't happen to like the style of music he makes..)
Collins has performed on a lot of music I *do* like, for example Eno's
"Another Green World" album.
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brighn
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response 34 of 104:
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Jul 20 23:38 UTC 2000 |
For my brother's calligraphy project awwwwway back in High School art class,
he did "You can blow out a match / But you can't blow out a fire / Once the
flame begins to catch / The wind will blow it higher" (PG, "Biko")
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krj
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response 35 of 104:
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Jul 20 23:45 UTC 2000 |
I believe that PG3, and the song "Biko" in particular, were significant
steps in Peter Gabriel's path into becoming a leading supporter
& marketer of "world music." Gabriel became involved with the WOMAD
group (World of Music and Dance), who produced some very influential
anthologies in the closing days of the LP, and then he went on to
start up the Real World music label which specializes in folk and
"roots-pop" music from less-well-covered areas of the world.
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tod
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response 36 of 104:
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Jul 21 00:00 UTC 2000 |
Peter was great til '79
I'm talking about Peter Frampton..you know, Van Halen just knocked Framton
off the map after that..
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brighn
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response 37 of 104:
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Jul 21 02:51 UTC 2000 |
We're still in the "closing days of theLP," technically.
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dbratman
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response 38 of 104:
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Jul 21 23:29 UTC 2000 |
Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins sound pretty much the same to me. I
mean, I can tell them apart, but they're the same kind of music: a kind
I really enjoy hearing in the car, but find oddly disappointing if I buy
the CD and take it home. Neither sounds any more of a genius, or a
vapid pop star, than the other to me.
Kate Bush has that annoying Stevie Nicks/Baba Wawa voice, but apart from
that, Mrs. Lincoln ...
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mcnally
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response 39 of 104:
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Jul 22 08:16 UTC 2000 |
Really? I'm going to go out on a limb and presume you're making this
decision based almost exclusively on what you hear of each artist on
the radio? If so, there's a substantial selection bias affecting your
comparison -- you're hearing only the tracks from each artist that radio
programmers have chosen to play, so if that's the case then perhaps it's
not surprising that they sound similar to you..
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gypsi
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response 40 of 104:
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Jul 22 18:29 UTC 2000 |
No kidding. I hate Peter Gabriel's radio stuff ("Games Without Frontiers") is
the exception. 96.3 plays "Red Rain" once in a while, but I don't count
that as a radio release.
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lelande
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response 41 of 104:
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Jul 22 19:52 UTC 2000 |
'family portrait' (i may have the title wrong) is my favorite peter
gabriel tune
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twinkie
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response 42 of 104:
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Jul 23 06:30 UTC 2000 |
I dunno.
I think Peter Gabriel's music is irritating and trite.
A lot of Phil Collins's music is trite, too...but far less irritating.
And, he's one hell of a drummer.
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brighn
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response 43 of 104:
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Jul 24 05:11 UTC 2000 |
I think it's "Family Snapshot." I recall "Sanpschuss" being the German title.
"Shock the Monkey" is another radio track I'd have to say is typical of his
artistry. It was really only his titled CDs (inasmuch as PG4 wasn't
voluntarily titled "Security") that had obvious radio tracks meant for mass
and vapid consumption ("Steam", e.g. -- although I always thought of "Kiss
the Frog" as one of those mass consumption singles, and I thought Gypsi aid
she liked that one... oh yeah, and "Sledgehammer," which was almost as obvious
as radio song as REM's "Stand," which qualifies as possibly the most annoying
song ever written by an artistic, quality band).
From a purely poetic standpoint, I think "Family Snapshot" is one of the best
musical poems PG has written, from the emotional breadth of it (from anger,
to hatred, to desperation, to poignant forlornness).
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