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mcnally
response 184 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 11 21:43 UTC 2000

  In the latest high-profile headline in the music industry, the FTC has
  apparently reached a settlement with the Big 5 record conglomerates
  regarding allegedly anti-competitive advertising practices.

  The settlement forbids the now common practice of subsidizing retailers'
  advertising costs in exchange for an agreement that retailers will not 
  advertise reduced prices on most discs.  According to reports, the 
  expected result of the settlement is increased competition among music
  retailers and reduced music costs, by as much as $1/disc or more.
krj
response 185 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 13 19:11 UTC 2000

What few reports have covered is that the resulting reductions in price
are expected to put further downward pressure on the profitability
of small independent CD shops.  But most of them are probably doomed 
anyway.
krj
response 186 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 04:16 UTC 2000

A two-page letter from owner Jim Leonard announces cutbacks and 
reorganization in the SKR empire; this is described as a
"partial liquidation."  This letter is posted in the 
Liberty Street storefronts.  The former SKR Classical storefront
will become "Uptown Music," and will incorporate jazz and world music
as well as classical.    Half of today's SKR store, the side which had 
the jazz cds, will become "Downtown Music" with the rock, pop, blues,
and everything else.  My reading of the message is that the "SKR" 
name is going to be discarded, but I'm not sure about that.
 
The original Schoolkids storefront is going to be let go; right now 
it is a clearance outlet for unwanted stock marked down 45%.

The letter also names the five (of eleven) staffers who are going to be
laid off.  It mentions that the owners of the "Dubplate Pressure"
store are going to revive that operation in Ypsilanti. 

Jim Leonard seems to be complaining that (1) his stores should be seen
as the true heir to Schoolkids, since they kept almost all of the 
old wonderful Schoolkids staff; 
(2) if customers don't shop at his locally owned store,
it will go away and everyone will have to shop at Borders.

My rude comments later...
katie
response 187 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 05:20 UTC 2000

I always get creeped out when I go in there...it has looked "under
construction" since it changed from Schoolkids to SKR, and they keep
moving the genres around so I can't find anything the next time I go in.
Not a welcoming environment at all.
carla
response 188 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 06:17 UTC 2000

Katie I agree.  But even when it *was* under construction, it was still more
inviting than it is now.
otaking
response 189 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 13:15 UTC 2000

Yeah, I used to spend hours in Schoolkids. Now, I cant stay in that place for
5 minutes.
carla
response 190 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 17:22 UTC 2000

Hey Ken, was Mike Perrini on that list of people getting laid off?
krj
response 191 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 18 19:43 UTC 2000

Carla: I don't know, I did not note down all the staff names.
 
Katie in resp:187 ::  Jim Leonard had some rather exotic plans for 
store decor which were never brought to fulfillment.  One side of the 
store was supposed to be done up in "Neuromancer"-style high-tech
garishness, and the other side was supposed to be done up as a tropical
jungle.  I do not know how far along they may have gotten before realizing
the money wasn't there to support these dreams; I was under the vague
impression that they had gotten the construction work underway.

I went to check the SKR stores out this morning.  I fished 8 discs
out of the clearance center, mostly pretty good stuff: Den Fule, 
John Renbourn & Doris Hederson, Dave Schramm, Original Harmony Creek 
Dippers, Planxty, Mary McCaslin, Sonya Hunter, and Odetta.  It's 
sad if this is the stuff they can't sell.

I ran out of time and brainpower to make sense of the piles of classical 
discs which were 45% off.  It did seem like the classical bins were 
dominated by lesser known performers and composers.  Besides the cds 
at the "Clearance Outlet," there are more closeouts at SKR Classical. 

In the SKR Pop-Rock/Downtown Music store, there was a big 99 cent bin
with some promising items in it.  There were also a lot of used discs.
I think the store may be going for a close to 50% new/used mix.

Over at SKR Classical/Uptown Music, I found that well over 1/2 of the 
opera stock has been removed.  Maybe they're in a box just being moved
from one spot to another.  There are more discs marked down 45%
at SKR Classical.

It looks to me like the folk and classical genres are 
making up the bulk of the stock being liquidated -- possibly 1/3 to
1/2 of SKR's stock in those fields is being swept out.  The rock CD stock
is being given a haircut, and very little jazz is being liquidated.
It does have the feel of a going out of business sale. 
katie
response 192 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 19 06:12 UTC 2000

(Which Mary McCaslin album?)  Mary is playing at Green Wood in Oct.

krj
response 193 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:20 UTC 2000

I got Mary McCaslin's "Old Friends" out of the bargain bin.  I think
there were other McCaslin CDs in there, but I can't be sure.
krj
response 194 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 19 20:57 UTC 2000

Back to the Minimum Advertised Price policy, resp:184, resp:185 ::
this is from http://www.billboard.com/daily/2000/0518_08.asp,
from a tail end of the story:
 
   "Merchants privately say that the elimination of MAP 
    rekindles fears that price wars will break out and return
    music retail to the unprofitability it suffered from 1994-1996,
    before strong MAP policies were adopted and enforced.
 
   "During those price wars, electronics retailers like Best Buy
    and Circuit City were selling music at a loss, in an effort
    to increase customer traffic for higher-priced electronics 
    goods.  The labels argued that MAP policies would make it 
    easier for small retailers to compete with the giants, thus
    increasing consumer choices."
krj
response 195 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 21 04:46 UTC 2000

Leslie and I took another trip to the SKR Clearance Outlet today,
since we were going downtown for dinner anyway.  There's a new, more 
alarming note from Jim Leonard in the window.  The discount has been 
ratcheted up from 45% to 50%.  "The situation is critical," says the 
note, and if they don't sell enough clearance CDs the stores could 
close in a couple of weeks.
 
So we did our part.  :)   I got three CDs which I'd passed over on 
the Thursday trip, and it amazed me that they were all still there, 
after being on sale at half price for three days; especially
the import reissue of the Kinks' LOLA VS.POWERMAN album.  And with 
Leslie there to answer questions I pillaged the classical section
and Leslie picked up a bunch of classical vocal discs.

It was 8 pm Saturday night, and there was only one other customer in our
side of the store.  It wasn't that no one was downtown: Borders was 
pretty crowded. 
void
response 196 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 22 04:48 UTC 2000

   htat's skr classical across from borders downtown, right?  i may
go check it out tomorrow, if i can convince myself to drive downtown.
mcnally
response 197 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 22 18:38 UTC 2000

  Like most Kinks albums, "Lola Vs. Powerman and the Money-go-round" is
  fantastically uneven, but it's well worth having if solely for my favorite
  Kinks song, "Apeman"..  
anderyn
response 198 of 247: Mark Unseen   May 26 13:54 UTC 2000

It is quite a bummer to go in there. (We went on Monday night, and I picked
up a Silly Wizard Greatest Hits CD, Tannas, an Irish sea shanty record, and
an old Connie Dover -- all ones that I had been mildly interested in
obtaining, but nothing I would have bought normally.)
krj
response 199 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 04:53 UTC 2000

I did not know until tonight that the "SKR Downtown" store was in
the former Annex storefront.  The two westernmost SKR storefronts,
the original Schoolkids space and the early '90s expansion,
have been vacated.
 
I have said for a long time that Ann Arbor has been overbuilt for 
CD retailing.  But I was not expecting the jolt I got tonight
from the "bummed" item in the Agora conference:
 
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#977 of 984: by Yay the Happy Whale (otaking) on Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (20:12):
 IBB Tower Records is closing at 4PM on Sunday, June 25.

#978 of 984: by Bruin the Bare Bear (bruin) on Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (20:52):
 You don't mean the Tower Records on South University in Ann Arbor, do 
 you?

#979 of 984: by Yay the Happy Whale (otaking) on Sat, Jun 17, 2000 (21:35):
 Yes, unfortunately I do.
 
 They claim to be closing temporarily, to make way for UM offices, but one of
 the staff members said that was a false hope.
 
 They're having a clearance sale. Anywhere from $2-4 off all CDs. 30% off all
 books. 20-30% all DVDs and videos. All sale prives are off the regular prices,
 not, the existing sale prices. Guess it's another victim of online sales.

mcnally
response 200 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 05:34 UTC 2000

  Wow..  I wouldn't have called that one, although it retrospect it
  doesn't surprise me.  It always seemed like there were not a lot 
  of people wandering around in there relative to the amount of floor
  space they were taking up in what has to be a more expensive location
  than places like Best Buy, etc..
krj
response 201 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 07:20 UTC 2000

As was pointed out in Agora: the demolition of the Forest St. parking 
ramp has to have hurt Tower badly; there is now essentially no public
parking near their store before 6 pm.  But I had always thought the 
chain was willing to ride this period out.
 
Still, I had detected the standard sign of retail distress in a CD shop:
the stock was collapsing.  In particular, the pop/rock rack space had
been cut back to make more room for geegaws.
 
I'm still in shock.  I have never seen this many CD retail failures,
this fast.  I know this city's been overbuilt for CD retailing for at
least five years; but this is supposed to be a good economy.
 
And I certainly never expected to end up with Borders as the leading 
CD retailer in town, in terms of selection.
 
As I wrote in Agora:  for maybe 25 years, beginning with the opening of 
Schoolkids, Ann Arbor was (arguably) the best place to 
shop for LPs & CDs between Toronto and the west coast.   
Friends who were visiting SE Michigan for science fiction 
conventions would make pilgrimages to the 
Liberty St./State St./South U. area.  But with the closing of Tower,
it's over.  Ann Arbor will no longer have a significantly better 
CD shopping scene than most towns with a Borders and a decent used 
store.
krj
response 202 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 07:32 UTC 2000

Heh.  If you want to read what Grexers thought of the *opening* of 
the Ann Arbor Tower, almost nine years ago, it's in the oldmusic
conference, item 17.   (item:oldmusic,17   and eventually that link will
become   item:music1,17)
mcnally
response 203 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 08:33 UTC 2000

  Somebody alert the RIAA!  This *must* be Napster's fault..  :-p
mcnally
response 204 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 09:18 UTC 2000

  re #202:  I was kind of surprised to see how consistent my Ann Arbor
  record store opinions were over the years..  And I was mortified by
  the section where several of us were discussing the anticipated 
  release of an Enya album -- can that be expunged?

  If nothing else, it was worth reading for the nostalgic flashback I
  got when I came across the responses about the demise of the longbox..
brighn
response 205 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 18:17 UTC 2000

#203: You don't think there's the slightest bit of a coincidence that indie
college-city-based CD outlets are going out of business at the same rate that
Napster is spreading?

You're more naive, or in deeper denial, than I thought.
cyklone
response 206 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 18:33 UTC 2000

What about the study that showed a decline in such sales before Napster was
created?
brighn
response 207 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 00:08 UTC 2000

don't confuse the issue with facts and statistics, Cyklone.
this is an emotional issue.
krj
response 208 of 247: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 07:19 UTC 2000

I'll write more about my pillaging of Tower tomorrow.  There's still
a lot of stuff worth digging through, since the sale is just a 
standard Tower storewide sale; Tower doesn't have to liquidate
the stock, since they can just ship it to another store.
 
Even after knocking $4 off Tower's inflated prices, there were 
folk and world music items which would be cheaper at Elderly 
Instruments.  And the new Neil Young album had a "base price"
sticker of $19.99, though they were selling it for a few dollars
cheaper than that.
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