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25 new of 870 responses total.
bru
response 183 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 03:17 UTC 2005

system is very slow.
naftee
response 184 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 03:29 UTC 2005

guys!
I,m just getting my mail right now!
mail that I should have recieved a long time ago!
whoa!
oldGreX must've been screwy!
keesan
response 185 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 04:05 UTC 2005

I just got two test messages from charcat from mich.com (charcat are you
reading this) but I cannot reply to him or even mail to myself.  When I try:

Mail not sent.  Sending error   451 Error while writing spool file.

What's up now?  It worked a couple of hours ago.  Is this my account or a
general problem?  

Earlier I got stuck at ebay, slowed to a crawl.  I think it was the net
connection as I could quit lynx instantly, just took forever to go to the next
link.   And lynx is still a few years out of date and it still redraws itself
3-5 times each time you go to a new URL.
keesan
response 186 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 04:12 UTC 2005

Net connection appears to be broken.  I waited 30 sec trying to ssh out and
gave up.  Our hardware or the ISP?   Probably explains the spool file error.
But I did get four incoming mails since the slowdown with lynx a couple of
hours ago so it appears to be glacially slow rather than dead.
albaugh
response 187 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 04:19 UTC 2005

A couple of minutes ago I couldn't connect via the internet.  This is being
entered via a dial-up session.
albaugh
response 188 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 04:24 UTC 2005

/var is still full.  I can't even vi one of my small text files - no space
left on device.  :-(
gelinas
response 189 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 04:57 UTC 2005

You can edit your file, you just can't save recovery information.

I power-cycled the modem some time between 22:30 and 23:00 this evening.
I left it off for several minutes, while I tried to deal with the full /var
partition.

I realise now that the state of /var contributed to the network problem: mail
was being rejected almost as fast as it was being received because the
messages couldn't be written to disk.

I have turned off incoming mail for the duration.
keesan
response 190 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 06:09 UTC 2005

The message I get when I log on says Sunday is Jan 2 and also Jan 3.
Thanks for the rescue, Joe.  
gelinas
response 191 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 06:15 UTC 2005

Thanks for the note; I've corrected the dates in motd. :)
keesan
response 192 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 06:19 UTC 2005

I was able to ssh just now out of grex, but it is quite slow.  Is this related
to the full /var?   
gelinas
response 193 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 06:24 UTC 2005

Probably:  mail was rejected because it couldn't be written to disk.  Now it
is coming in.
jep
response 194 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 13:51 UTC 2005

Backtalk is running at OldGrex speeds.

The page which used to be the choice for bookmarking, now allows a user 
to log in but then gives a 404 "The page cannot be found" message:

   http://www.grex.org/cgi-bin/pw/bt/pistachio/begin

The solution is to bookmark this page:

   http://www.grex.org/cgi-bin/pw/backtalk/pistachio/begin

This might be confusing some users.
kalbaugh
response 195 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 15:25 UTC 2005

What happened to all my files?!!!
albaugh
response 196 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 15:51 UTC 2005

My files have returned just as mysteriously as they disappeared, and my mail
has been restored too.  :-)
albaugh
response 197 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 15:56 UTC 2005

Under old grex, vi (as it does under Solaris, HP-UX, etc.) when started up
showed the number of lines in the file being edited.  Under nextgrex, vi
instead shows the following:

<filename>: unmodified: line 1

Is there some way to get vi to show the number of lines upon startup?
albaugh
response 198 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 15:58 UTC 2005

BTW, for me, at the moment, telnetting in to nextgrex from the internet,
response is DOG SLOW.
jep
response 199 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 17:05 UTC 2005

Backtalk got a lot faster in the last hour or so.  Yay!
albaugh
response 200 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 17:37 UTC 2005

Just now when I tried to connect via the internet, I was shown:

telnetd: All network ports in use.

Is that a case of staff turning off connections for to do maintenance, 
or do we have a need for the telnet queue after all?  (this is being 
entered via backtalk)
dpc
response 201 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 18:14 UTC 2005

I got the same "telnetd" message that Kevin did for serveral tries
at dialing in.  Then finally I was able to dial in.  I have *never*
gotten this message bfefore.  I hope the dialin users won't have
to wait in the telnet queue.

Also - the ^H backspace problem and the "byte abcd" problem are still
with us.
albaugh
response 202 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 19:44 UTC 2005

The "all ports in use" situation remains, 2 hours later...
gull
response 203 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 19:57 UTC 2005

Re resp:127,resp:179: Pine uses those "internal data" messages to store
various information, I think.  I don't know what happens if you delete one.

Re resp:157: In BSD, filesystems have an area that's reserved for only
the root user.  The percentage full takes into account only the
user-accessable part of the filesystem.  So if the filesystem is filled
by a user, then root (or a process owned by root) puts some stuff on it,
it will be over 100%.

Re resp:201: The 'Byte abcd' problem isn't really a "problem", it's just
a different prompt.  more is telling you how many bytes into the file
you are, instead of giving an information-free 'More' prompt.
gelinas
response 204 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 06:24 UTC 2005

Re #197:  I've been using vi since 1992, admittedly mostly on SunOS (both 4.x
and 5.x); I've noticed a line-count at the beginning of an editting session.
The command :number (or :nu) will precede each line with its number.

Re 201:  The option "-d" will give you the default "more" prompt.  You may
want to set this in your .cshrc (if you use csh), with the command

        setenv MORE -d
gelinas
response 205 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 10:57 UTC 2005

So I was wrong: vi on on the old machine did give the file name, number of
lines and number of characters.  On OpenBSD and linux (2.4.26, I don't know
which distribution), it doesn't.

I note that the man page here, as well as on the Linux machine I now use, is
for the "nex/nvi" versions.  According to the man page, "Nex/nvi  are
intended as bug-for-bug compatible replacements for the original  Fourth
Berkeley  Software  Distribution (4BSD)  ex  and vi programs."

The man pages for vi and nvi do not hint at how to change the initial
information.  For what's worth, <CTRL>G still reports the current line number
and the total number of lines in the file.
gelinas
response 206 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 10:58 UTC 2005

(I now see that I omitted a negative in the first sentence of 204.  Ah well.)
dpc
response 207 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 14:20 UTC 2005

What about the ^H that I get on my screen instead of the backspace?
With OldGrex, I was told upon login that abackspace was ^H, but
it never appered on my screen.
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