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keesan
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response 18 of 122:
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Dec 12 01:04 UTC 1998 |
Thanks again, can you define what Goth music is, if that is possible? I had
not heard of it until now.
I find that the New Age music played just before midnight on the radio
puts me to sleep (is that intentional)? It all seems rather repetitious, but
is some of it better than other parts? Our neighbor has been trying to point
out why some jazz is better than others.
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davel
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response 19 of 122:
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Dec 12 13:32 UTC 1998 |
Some of it is indeed quite good, but ... most of it puts me to sleep, too.
Possibly it's no accident that they play it late at night.
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cloud
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response 20 of 122:
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Dec 13 05:20 UTC 1998 |
Some jazz is better than others. Simply put, almost any jazz is better than
Kenny G... At least, that's my not-so-humble opinion.
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keesan
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response 21 of 122:
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Dec 13 14:09 UTC 1998 |
My neighbor has the same opinion of Kenny G, who I only heard of because we
were given a free copy of him at Kiwanis, which we use to test CD players,
and then someone who bought a player said he was her favorite. He apparently
sings one note for 45 minutes (a bit boring in my opinion). Can you recommend
any good jazz music that is less random-sounding than average?
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orinoco
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response 22 of 122:
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Dec 14 02:28 UTC 1998 |
Re defining goth: I was afraid you were going to ask something like that:)
The only thing goth bands really have in common with each other is their
generally dark mood. The bands I reccomended in #17 are all an etheral, kinda'
melancholy sort of dark. There are also goth bands who are loud, angry, and
obnoxious sorts of dark. It really depends.
Meaning "go get some goth music" was probably not a good reccomendation. :)
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mcnally
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response 23 of 122:
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Dec 14 17:39 UTC 1998 |
No, but the pointer to Dead Can Dance was probably a good one..
Perhaps Cocteau Twins might also fit the bill -- I'm trying to think
of music that's lush, layered, and atmospheric..
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keesan
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response 24 of 122:
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Dec 14 18:05 UTC 1998 |
Would Borders have anything in this category that I could listen to?
I should go take a look, with a list of the above suggestions.
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coyote
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response 25 of 122:
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Dec 14 23:39 UTC 1998 |
Yes, I'd highly recommend Dead Can Dance as well. They have a very broad
range of styles, however, so just picking up one album might not show you what
all they do. My two personal favorite albums are probably "Into the
Labyrinth" and "Aion", which both have very different characters, but I like
all of their albums (at least the ones that I own).
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keesan
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response 26 of 122:
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Dec 15 02:52 UTC 1998 |
Do they play traditional instruments or electronic ones? Or both?
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mcnally
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response 27 of 122:
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Dec 15 07:21 UTC 1998 |
Virtually all traditional instruments. From a pretty wide variety
of traditions, too..
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anderyn
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response 28 of 122:
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Dec 15 13:53 UTC 1998 |
I'll re-endorse the Dead Can Dance recommendations. Even Bruce (my
husband who doesn't like much *modern* music) liked them. They're a very
lush sound, very layered....
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keesan
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response 29 of 122:
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Dec 15 18:42 UTC 1998 |
I just copied down the suggestions and will check for them at Borders and/or
the library and report back. Celtic, folk-rock and folk, hammered dulcimer,
and Goth (did I miss any?). krj, I appreciate your offer of lending CDs but
would be afraid to damage them (somehow I don't worry about library stuff).
We have some library books due today, so will be going into town.
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mcnally
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response 30 of 122:
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Dec 15 22:28 UTC 1998 |
Judging from the condition of many discs I've checked out of the
Ann Arbor public library you're not the only one who doesn't worry
about scratching them..
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bruin
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response 31 of 122:
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Dec 16 00:07 UTC 1998 |
RE #30 I had the same problem as you with library CD's, mcnally -- they have
been notorious for skipping parts of songs and sometimes getting stuck and
sounding like something from a science fiction movie. Guess there are a lot
of library patrons who don't treat library property with TLC. (Same goes for
all the library books and magazines which have pictures of naked people ripped
out of them.)
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albaugh
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response 32 of 122:
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Dec 16 06:49 UTC 1998 |
Call me an old fogey, but I'd highly recommend the "classic" Blood, Sweat,
and Tears and Chicago albums. The Moody Blues did some nice stuff also.
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krj
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response 33 of 122:
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Dec 16 15:16 UTC 1998 |
OK, you're an old fogey. :) For albaugh: if you like the old BS&T and
Chicago stuff, as my wife and I do, you might want to look for another
jazz-rock band from the same period called Chase, named for its leader
Bill Chase. http://www.great-music.com/chase/chase.htm
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keesan
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response 34 of 122:
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Dec 16 16:00 UTC 1998 |
Well, we got to the library ten minutes before closing, and I tried looking
in the electronic catalog for the various suggested categories and titles.
Found Never a Bride but nothing else except for some plain dulcimer Christmas
music, and they were closing before I figured out how to locate Never a Bride
on the shelf, so I got out some classical music from Iran and some harpsichord
music and some other folk and classical music and went to Borders. First time
I ever actually walked into their music dept. I figured out how to use their
touch screen after a while, and after several tries realized that Rasputina
is a performer and Never a Bride an album (you have to do three separate
searches for song, album, and performer) and guessed at the category (I think
it was rock). They had Rasputina and Dead Can Dance but not Never a Bride
(no longer published, since 1995) and lots of folk music but not the
recommended Scandinavian stuff (only the nonrecommended band). I then figured
out how to use the listening areas (first two were apparently broken) but
could not hear much over the loud and insistent background music. Listened
to a few things randomly in a few categories until the noise drove me away.
Does anyone actually go to Borders to buy classical music? They don't seem
to play anything that is not mainly loud percussion.
I will look for Never a Bride at the library, and perhaps Ken would
not mind taping me a few things, and the library might want to order some
Scandinavian folk music.
We have a book out currently with several pages cut out of it, all of
them seem to be scantily clad women (judging from the smaller BW versions of
the same things near the end). You would think they could have just bought
a Playboy magazine rather than cutting up a photography book.
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bruin
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response 35 of 122:
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Dec 17 00:29 UTC 1998 |
BTW, the 1970's group Chase had only one major hit ("Get It On"), and three
years later Bill Chase and other members of the band were killed in a plane
crash.
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md
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response 36 of 122:
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Dec 17 03:41 UTC 1998 |
Many classical music lovers also love movie music. Bernard
Hermann, John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith. Did you know that
Rudolph Steiner, who composed the famous Gone with the Wind
theme, also composed the famous theme to A Summer Place two
decades later? Did you know that the music for Our Town,
The Red Pony, and Something Wild was all composed by Aaron
Copland? Or that the music to the movie Scott of the Antarctic
was made into a symphony (Sinfonia Antartica) by its composer,
Ralph Vaughn Williams? Leonard Bernstein wrote the music for
On the Waterfront, but *Elmer* Berstein wrote the celebrated
jazz-influenced score to The Man with the Golden Arm (among
many others).
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remmers
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response 37 of 122:
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Dec 17 10:09 UTC 1998 |
(Are you sure it isn't Max Steiner, rather than Rudolph Steiner?)
In point of fact, I'm a classical music lover who also loves
movie music. My favorite film score composers are probably
Bernard Hermann and Nino Rota. Hermann did the scores for
"Citizen Kane", various Hitchcock films ("Vertigo", "Psycho",
"Marnie", etc.), Truffaut's "Fahrenheit 451", Scorsese's
"Taxi Driver". Rota is most famous for "The Godfather" and
his scores for numerous Fellini films.
One of my favorite film scores of all time is Prokofiev's
score for "Alexander Nevsky", later arranged as a suite for
orchestra and chorus.
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davel
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response 38 of 122:
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Dec 17 11:19 UTC 1998 |
Prokofiev also wrote movie music. The one that comes to mind (in the
suite drawn from the score) is _Lieutenant_Kije_. (I've never heard the
original score played, just the suite in various arrangements ...
starting with *playing* it in jr. high school band.)
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md
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response 39 of 122:
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Dec 17 11:31 UTC 1998 |
Yes, Max Steiner is definitely the film composer. Rudolf Steiner,
I believe, was an anarchist theorist. Probably composed atonal
music on the side. Speaking of which, the first atonal score used
in a popular feature film was the one for Fantastic Voyage.
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md
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response 40 of 122:
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Dec 17 12:02 UTC 1998 |
...which, according to IMDB, was composed by Leonard Rosenman, who
also did the music for Rebel without a Cause, Star Trek IV: the
Voyage Home, and many other movies. His most famous scrap of music,
however, is the "doo-doo-doo-doo" Twilight Zone theme.
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albaugh
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response 41 of 122:
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Dec 17 19:26 UTC 1998 |
Well, might as well admit that John Williams' Star Wars scores are heavily
classical in style while blaring out catchy themes.
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md
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response 42 of 122:
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Dec 17 21:02 UTC 1998 |
Not only Star Wars, but also Superman, Raiders of the Lost Ark,
Jaws, ET, Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, and many other
blockbusters I've forgotten, I'm sure. Williams' style always
sounds British to me, like a more tuneful Malcolm Arnold. Even
his earliest "Cowboys" music, when he was still Johnnie Williams,
has this quality.
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