|
|
| Author |
Message |
| 25 new of 378 responses total. |
edina
|
|
response 179 of 378:
| 
Mar 8 18:22 UTC 2006 |
Lynne, the difference between us is that I've never let my weight be an excuse
for anything. Sure, I'm somewhat fat. So what?
|
slynne
|
|
response 180 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:34 UTC 2006 |
But seriously. I am not in denial about my own weight. I know I am fat.
I am not in denial about my diet. I know it isnt all that great. I am
not even in denial about the possibility that I might have an eating
disorder and a somewhat fucked up relationship with food. What do you
think I am using my weight as an excuse for?
I do find it interesting that whenever fat people try to point out the
prejudices of others they are accused of being in denial. I see this a
lot on some of the size-acceptance sites I read. People seem to have a
real problem if a fat person questions the common view that fat people
are gross or lazy or out of control. They also dont like it if fat
people choose to question just how much control they have over their
diets or metabolism or whatever. And it REALLY happens if they question
the health risks of obesity or suggest that it might be anything less
than a terminal condition.
It reminds me a lot of a book I read about how people think. It was a
book about how people think in frames and tend to discard information
that doesnt fit with the frame they believe. People in this country
tend to believe that everyone has control over every aspect of their
lives. They believe that people who are poor are poor because they
deserve to be and that rich people are better people than they are
simply because they happen to be rich. Any evidence that poverty might
be related to anything other than a person's effort is discarded. Same
with weight.
|
slynne
|
|
response 181 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:36 UTC 2006 |
Let me ask you something else. You say that you are still somewhat
overweight. Do you sit around on the couch all day stuffing your face
full of food. There are people who probably think that of you based on
no other information than how you look. Do you think that could mean
that they have prejudices about fat people?
|
happyboy
|
|
response 182 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:37 UTC 2006 |
hey, what is your exercise regimine these days? i think that
factor is the most important mentioned in terms of health
impact...well that and NOT smoking.
your bloodwork ok and all?
come visit.
|
happyboy
|
|
response 183 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:37 UTC 2006 |
slippage
|
scholar
|
|
response 184 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:46 UTC 2006 |
re. 169: does she use commas?!
|
slynne
|
|
response 185 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:53 UTC 2006 |
resp:182 - I hurt my knee pretty badly at the end of January so I
stopped walking. Before that, I was taking the dogs out for 1/2 hour
walk at least three times a week but sometimes more often (Jan was a
warm month).
I started walking again when I was in California. I was surprised at
how much out of shape I had gotten in just three weeks. I am slowly
getting back into the old take the dogs out 3 or more times per week.
(So far this week it has been a 45 min walk on sunday and a 30 min walk
yesterday. I'll probably do just a little 20 minute walk tonight
because I have afterwork plans).
I started smoking again in August but have quit again a week ago.
I have a doctor's appointment on the 27th so I have more information
about my health after that time. I know from donating blood that my
blood pressure is good but my iron levels are not (I was refused the
last two times because of that).
I am planning a visit to Seattle soon.
|
richard
|
|
response 186 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:54 UTC 2006 |
you couldn't take your dogs out to walk for three weeks? The dogs must have
gained weight too. Obese pets is another problem these days.
|
edina
|
|
response 187 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:56 UTC 2006 |
Lynne - I don't care what people think about my habits. Therein lies the crux
of the matter. My issue right now with everything you are saying is that it
seems to be: Fat people can be healthy. I agree with this statement - to
a limited point. Someone can be overweight and have very normal blood
readings, blood pressure, etc. Good on with them. But someone who is 600
lbs is not healthy. And I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon of "I'm ok,
you're ok" - not because society tells me to, but because I've been morbidly
obese and I know how miserable it can be. Not from what society has put on
me (though I do love the special misery of having to ask for a seatbelt
extender and I was ecstatic to let those days go) - but because I just didn't
feel good - physically or emotionally.
Do you want me to tell you that I don't believe there are prejudices? Of
course there are. I just choose to not live by them.
|
nharmon
|
|
response 188 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:57 UTC 2006 |
Damn, if I was a vegan I could eat deep fried jalapeneo poppers all day
long. Sweet.
|
richard
|
|
response 189 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:58 UTC 2006 |
re #186 and if you'll notice often fat people have fat pets. they share their
junkfood with their pets and feed them five times a day.
|
nharmon
|
|
response 190 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:58 UTC 2006 |
Err wait, strike "vegan", change that to "vegetarian".
|
edina
|
|
response 191 of 378:
|
Mar 8 18:58 UTC 2006 |
No you couldn't - there's cheese in them.
|
happyboy
|
|
response 192 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:03 UTC 2006 |
yes he could if he were a lacto-ovo veg.
you know,vegetarian lite.
|
nharmon
|
|
response 193 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:03 UTC 2006 |
Ok, I'd be a lactovegetarian then. ;)
|
slynne
|
|
response 194 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:24 UTC 2006 |
I never said that the 600lb woman was healthy. I think that probably
she was not and probably her choice to have gastric bypass was a wise
one. What I thought was prejudiced and bigoted about that blog post was
the writer's speculation on the diet that led to someone being 600lbs
and that she chose to call that woman names like "freak."
richard, that is an interesting prejudice you have. FWIW, I dont feed
my pets junk food and the dogs are not fat. The cat is fat but so what?
I dont consider it a problem and neither does she.
|
richard
|
|
response 195 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:26 UTC 2006 |
slynne said:
"The cat is fat but so what? "
By refusing to put your cat on a diet, you may be shortening its life.
You don't think cats have heart attacks?
I am not prejudiced against fat pets btw
|
richard
|
|
response 196 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:34 UTC 2006 |
I'd like to see some studies on food addiction, because clearly it seems
like you can get addicted to certain types of food just as you can get
addicted to nicotine or alcohol. If you have a physical addiction to a
food, then your overeating is responding to your body's needs. Such
addictions cant always be overcome by sheer discipline, just as some
people can't quit smoking cold turkey. There was a guy here in New York
State, he weighed 1200 pounds, he was addicted to pork sausage and cheese.
Kept a portable stove and frying pan next to his bed. He could not quit
eating sausage and cheese on his own, his body craved it too much. The
problem is there is not a "patch" for food addicts.
|
slynne
|
|
response 197 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:36 UTC 2006 |
The cat is 17 years old which is a ripe old age for a cat. There is no
evidence that putting her on a diet now will improve her health. There
is a LOT of evidence that putting her on a diet would be bad for MY
health since she tends to keep me awake if her food dish is empty
There almost certainly are food addictions. I am going to guess that
the most common one would be to refined sugar based on my own addiction
to the stuff.
|
richard
|
|
response 198 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:39 UTC 2006 |
re #197 Im guessing that salt is addictive. McDonald's heavily salts all its
food because it makes customers crave their food more.
|
kingjon
|
|
response 199 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:43 UTC 2006 |
Salt is a flavor-enhancer. I suspect they salt their food because a) it makes
the customers thirsty and b) it means they don't have to use as much custom
flavoring.
|
edina
|
|
response 200 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:45 UTC 2006 |
re 194 Please tell me what would cause someone to weigh 600 lbs and have a
doctor do that surgery on her?
|
richard
|
|
response 201 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:48 UTC 2006 |
re #200 what would cause someone to weigh 600 pounds? an addiction to certain
foods
|
richard
|
|
response 202 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:49 UTC 2006 |
some people can't eat potato chips, because if they eat two they can't stop,
they end up eating the whole bag. the body craves the salt content, you can't
eat just ONE potato chip.
|
nharmon
|
|
response 203 of 378:
|
Mar 8 19:49 UTC 2006 |
> what would cause someone to weigh 600 pounds?
A hundred pound backpack and a 2G aerobatic manuever
|