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response 178 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 19:22 UTC 2004

re 174 /var/log/messages doesn't contain information that would say who killed
a login process.  Or at least it doesn't to my eyes.  I'll defer to other
staff with more experience.
ryan
response 179 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 19:49 UTC 2004

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mcnally
response 180 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 20:19 UTC 2004

  re #174:  I recently had an evening where I kept getting logged
  out abruptly, several times while in party.  Did you just leap
  to the conclusion that you were being persecuted by a vengeful
  root user?  My assumption was that it was likely that network
  problems were causing my session to drop out..  I'm not sure how
  you'd differentiate between the two scenarios in a typical login
  session, so perhaps you should at least consider other causes..
twenex
response 181 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 20:24 UTC 2004

I've been having this, too - after a while, if i don't type anything, my
session just gets dropped. Is that the problem you've ben having, Mike?
ryan
response 182 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 20:35 UTC 2004

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willcome
response 183 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 20:39 UTC 2004

I already have an item about this in coop.  maybe oldcoop.
kip
response 184 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 20:41 UTC 2004

re 179 actually that would be /var/log/sulog.
gull
response 185 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 22:21 UTC 2004

I get Pine sessions killed with various signals from time to time.  I
don't know why.  I'd been assuming some hardware glitch.
goose
response 186 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 03:54 UTC 2004

I for one am glad that the messages file is closed to all but roots.
naftee
response 187 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 04:02 UTC 2004

re 177 All the crappy e-mail bombers are written with Italian instructions.

re 180 Both ryan and jimj were in party at the same time; it's more than
enough to get worried.

re 184 It is /var/log/messages on FreeBSD, maybe it's different on SunOS.

re 186 I'm glad you're just a silly old goose.
kip
response 188 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 04:12 UTC 2004

It is different here.  Use of the su command is logged in /var/log/sulog, not
/var/log/messages

jiffer
response 189 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 04:18 UTC 2004

Naftee you are paranoid. 

And now for my paranoid issue.  I logged in to find that I supposedly sent
junk crap mail to people and it was bounced back.  I find this more than just
strange but odd since I never send mail on grex anymore and all my mail from
grex should be forwarding which is forwarding again.  so... there, and who
ever the unethical jerk who did this, f- you! f- you  and your large a-hole!
naftee
response 190 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 04:40 UTC 2004

Jiffer quit being mean.
gelinas
response 191 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 04:54 UTC 2004

It's probably a virus, choosing an e-mail address from the infected machine's
address book.
bhoward
response 192 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 05:06 UTC 2004

Occasionally, if I am disconnected from grex for being idle to long
but log in just after having been disconnected, I will get forcibly
signed-off again.  Unfortunately, I don't have enough debugging 
evidence to really nail down the cause but I assume there may be
a bug in the idle login killer or robocop that causes it to mistake
my fresh loging for a valid target process to kill.
bhoward
response 193 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 05:07 UTC 2004

s/loging/login session
goose
response 194 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 16:08 UTC 2004

RE#189 -- Yep, your address was harvested from someone elses machine that has
been infected with a virus.  It looks like you sent mail, but you really
didn't.  It's a huge pain in the ass, but there is nothing you can do about
it.
jiffer
response 195 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 16:49 UTC 2004

Drats, that is a bit embarressing.  

Naftee I am always mean. 
remmers
response 196 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 17:27 UTC 2004

I frequently get spam with the "From:" address forged to look like
it came from somebody I know.  As Chris says, the most likely
explanation is that both addresses were lifted by a virus from the
address book on some third party's infected (Windows) machine.
albaugh
response 197 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 18:14 UTC 2004

Is this the proper item in which to report an e-mail "difficulty"?
gelinas
response 198 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 18:19 UTC 2004

Probably as good as any.  What's up?
albaugh
response 199 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 18:40 UTC 2004

For I'm not sure how long now an e-quaintance who receives my grex e-mail OK
cannot get mail delivered [back] to grex.  After a few days, he gets a bounce
message that looks like this:


From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAILER-DAEMON@out1.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net>
To: <auser@voyager.net>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

This is the Postfix program at host out1.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. 
You can delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

<auser@cyberspace.org>: connect to 
grex.cyberspace.org[216.93.104.34]: read timeout


I guess I should contact the voyager.net postmaster (my e-quaintance isn't
computer savvy), but before I do, does the grex "side" have anything to
comment on about this?

gelinas
response 200 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 19:00 UTC 2004

My _guess_ is that they've set a too-short timeout on the voyager end.

Hmm...

    Jan 18 02:08:37 grex sendmail[19179]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
        (out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net): error on output channel
        sending "220 ESMTP spoken here": Connection refused by
        out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net

The connection is supposed to be something like:

} telnet grex.cyberspace.org 25
} Trying 216.93.104.34...
} Connected to grex.cyberspace.org.
} Escape character is '^]'.
} 220-grex.cyberspace.org Sendmail 8.6.13/8.6.12 ready at Mon, 19 Jan 2004
        13:57:13 -0500
} 220 ESMTP spoken here

Apparently, that second line never gets back to out?.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net,
and then things time-out/break.
albaugh
response 201 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 19:05 UTC 2004

Does that mean that the grex side is "failing" in some way, or is it still
something on the voyager.net side.  BTW, I'm very sure that my e-quaintance
would have mentioned if this problem ocurred with other systems he tries to
send e-mail to...
gelinas
response 202 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 19:21 UTC 2004

I think it's on the voyager side: grex is trying to send something, but
voyager doesn't accept it.
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