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jp2
response 178 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:05 UTC 2001

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aruba
response 179 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:13 UTC 2001

I couldn't agree more with #177.  Well put.
keesan
response 180 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:14 UTC 2001

There are some people (autistic, etc.) who do better communicating via one
sense at a time.  The sensory overload of face to face communication is too
much for them to handle.  They have trouble dealing with the words and the
emotions at the same time.
anderyn
response 181 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:14 UTC 2001

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tfbjr
response 182 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:20 UTC 2001

Do you really believe that personality issues do not matter?

One Fortune 500 company I worked for had a very harsh VP.  He stepped on too
many toes, and was escorted out by security one day after stepping on the
wrong toes.

Build your platform, then.  Be *concrete* and explain how you are an asset.
jp2
response 183 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:36 UTC 2001

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aruba
response 184 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 16:54 UTC 2001

What kind of advertising do you have in mind?
jp2
response 185 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:06 UTC 2001

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other
response 186 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 19:05 UTC 2001

re #180  Are you suggesting that jp2 is autistic?  That might explain 
some things...

re #176 
> Now, I would like to know if someone can explain what makes Grex so 
> special that the same management techniques that companies like IBM, 
> Microsoft, GM, and others use to run their business cannot work here.

Well, now.  I suppose that if you had actually *read* what you are 
claiming to be responding to, you have noticed the part about "our 
current technological and financial resources" determining the parameters 
within which we will meet.  I did not suggest that remote meeting would 
be impossible if we had the resources of the megacorps you use as 
examples.

re # 185  The supposed 'logic' behind your suggestion for joint 
memberships has in earlier discussions proven so thoroughly deficient 
that it is not even worth further response.

Jamie, I have to say that I do hope you will continue to voice your 
opinions on Grex, as that is the surest possible way to assure that you 
will never have any significant impact upon our policy or management 
practices, except possibly to reinforce our perceptions of the decisions 
we have made as being the correct ones.
jp2
response 187 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 19:23 UTC 2001

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jp2
response 188 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 19:25 UTC 2001

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other
response 189 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:00 UTC 2001

I suppose you would be willing to cover the cost of a portable 100Mbps 
real-time, full-screen videoconferencing setup?  I'd like to see that.
jp2
response 190 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:00 UTC 2001

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other
response 191 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:07 UTC 2001

Inadequate to the purpose.
jp2
response 192 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:09 UTC 2001

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other
response 193 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:10 UTC 2001

Inadequate to the purpose for Grex.  We're not talking about M-Net.
edina
response 194 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:17 UTC 2001

True.  And I have kept my mouth shut for a while now.  First off, Jamie is
a friend of mine - but even I take him with a grain of salt.  Yes, he's
pompous and at times, obnoxious.  But I think you are overlooking the good
things he could bring to the table.  I thought he had some great ideas - I
would love if I could pay one fee and be a member of both grex and m-net. 
They are such wildly diverse systems - just as your board would be diverse
if you actually looked at Jamie as a serious contender.  It's not all bad,
people.
md
response 195 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:29 UTC 2001

ROTFL
edina
response 196 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:31 UTC 2001

Laugh all you want - you are just as much of an ass here as you are on m-net.
keesan
response 197 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:38 UTC 2001

I think the main difference between grex and m-net is that on the latter
everyone seems to be calling everyone else an ass.  Can they all be right?
jp2
response 198 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:39 UTC 2001

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tfbjr
response 199 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:43 UTC 2001

I *was* giving him the benefit of the doubt initially.  I did not lie 
about that. 

He came under immediate strong criticism.  Rather than simply 
explaining his point of view, he lashed out.  He's made several 
negative comments about Grexers... the same folks he claims to want to 
serve.

The things he brings up *are* worthy of consideration.  But they can 
happen without him.  I want to know that the right people are handling 
the issues we are concerned about.

His approach is piss-poor and has been from the beginning.  I don't 
want to be attacked if he is in a position of power and I question his 
viewpoint.

I think he's intelligent but tact does matter.  As someone who may be 
serving *my* needs, his attitude towards me indeed matters.  The fact 
that he does not think so shows him to be short-sighted, focused only 
on his personal goals regardless of who he offends.  This is not 
appropriate in a customer service environment.  The fact that he can 
only spout that I don't know politics when I call him on this point 
only proves that he is selfish and will not concede a valid point.  He 
will need to be able to compromise when he is faced with reasonable 
opposition.
keesan
response 200 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:48 UTC 2001

I do not believe that Jamie seriously expects to win any grex elections, and
I think he is just talking about it as a joke.  To win, he would have had to
convince a lot of his friends to become grex members, which would probably
require that he get more people to pay for grex memberships than the total
who have paid for m-net memberships.
jp2
response 201 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:50 UTC 2001

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scott
response 202 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 20:59 UTC 2001

Add me to the list of people who don't think conference calling would be a
good way to conduct meetings.  In my professional life we do conference calls,
but we also sometimes conclude that a ftf meeting is needed.  
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