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bru
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response 178 of 218:
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Feb 23 04:01 UTC 2006 |
thats about the size of it. But that hao nothing to do with telling a lie.
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cyklone
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response 179 of 218:
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Feb 23 12:29 UTC 2006 |
Deliberately refusing to ascertain the truth, and making decisions based on
wilful ignorance, is just as bad as lying.
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jep
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response 180 of 218:
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Feb 23 13:14 UTC 2006 |
I believe that Saddam Hussein didn't have the advanced nuclear weapons
program that the Bush Administration said he had, when they were
persuading us all to start the War in Iraq. I think it's possible he
had some nuclear weapons and that they were removed from the country,
but I haven't seen any convincing evidence of that since we invaded. I
think the war was not justified and I believe we were lied to by Bush
and his subordinates.
I'm still happier that Saddam Hussein is in jail, rather than in
control of Iraq. I'd rather have Hussein in jail than Osama bin Laden
or Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. I don't like the way Iraq was invaded but the
outcome was a positive.
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johnnie
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response 181 of 218:
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Feb 23 16:30 UTC 2006 |
>I'd rather have Hussein in jail than Osama bin Laden
Why? You think Hussein is/was a bigger threat to the USA and world than
ObL? Certainly SH is a Really Bad Guy, but his influence in recent
years was pretty much limited to making life hell for his own people,
whereas ObL is still causing trouble around the globe, and godonlyknows
what he's got in store for us next.
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mcnally
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response 182 of 218:
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Feb 23 17:28 UTC 2006 |
re #181: I can't speak for John, but *I* think Saddam Hussein was a
bigger threat to the world, though not to the USA, than Osama bin Laden.
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tod
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response 183 of 218:
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Feb 23 17:34 UTC 2006 |
I always felt that Saddam ruled the way he did because its the only possible
way that a single government could exist without being ultra Islamic. I'm
not saying that I condone anything about it but just that I understood what
was going on there.
As for comparing him with Osama, I think its a herring. Osama should never
have been taken off the radar screen by GW Bush. You can look at North Korea
and Venezuela and see something just as evil as Iraq yet we could still live
a while without touching them with military action.
I do not understand why GW was ever let off the hook for screwing up
Afghanistan's black-ops hunt for Osama. Nor do I understand why GW was ever
let off the hook for putting the Saudis and Pakistan on our BUDDY list.
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happyboy
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response 184 of 218:
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Feb 23 17:44 UTC 2006 |
so how is everybody enjoying the civil war in iraq!?
8D
jep....how many american civilians did osama murder?
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twenex
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response 185 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:17 UTC 2006 |
so how is everybody enjoying the civil war in iraq!?
Apparently there isn't one, yet. No guesses as to who said that.
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twenex
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response 186 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:18 UTC 2006 |
Er, no prizes for guessing who.
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happyboy
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response 187 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:23 UTC 2006 |
"We're gunna rebuild that there mosque!"
---gw bush
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tod
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response 188 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:45 UTC 2006 |
MIXED ACCOMPLISHMENT!
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happyboy
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response 189 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:47 UTC 2006 |
"we're gunna use 'marikan taxdollers tew rebuild that there
mosk, we're gunna send a man ta mars!"
gw fife
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tod
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response 190 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:47 UTC 2006 |
MISSION MESSAGES!
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happyboy
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response 191 of 218:
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Feb 23 18:49 UTC 2006 |
"jaysus tolt me yore gumma be a pressiden."
gorge boosh
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jadecat
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response 192 of 218:
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Feb 23 19:08 UTC 2006 |
Osama has a hippo named after him in Africa...
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happyboy
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response 193 of 218:
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Feb 23 19:11 UTC 2006 |
it all makes sense now!
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johnnie
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response 194 of 218:
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Feb 23 19:28 UTC 2006 |
>*I* think Saddam Hussein was a bigger threat to the world, though not
to >the USA, than Osama bin Laden.
Okay, but why? While I'll happily agree that everyone is better off
with Hussein rotting away in a jail cell, it seems to me that he was
largely contained as a threat. American planes regularly patrolled his
airspace, sanctions (though imperfect) kept his resources in check, he
didn't have the military might for cross-border excursions, whatever WMD
programs he may have once had were rusty and dusty, and he didn't have
any allies.
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happyboy
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response 195 of 218:
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Feb 23 19:45 UTC 2006 |
it's a better world now that their oilfields will be under the
dominion of a shi'ite theocracy!
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rcurl
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response 196 of 218:
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Feb 23 20:41 UTC 2006 |
Re #180: "I don't like the way Iraq was invaded but the
outcome was a positive." POSITIVE??? It is a grotesque catastrophe. There
has been more death and destruction foisted upon the Iraqi public and our
invaders than ever occurred under Saddam, and now the Sunni's are blowing
up a mosque built in the year 805 and the Shia are retaliating by blowing up
Sunni mosques. This IS now a civil war, in which thousands will suffer even
more. And we caused it.
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twenex
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response 197 of 218:
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Feb 23 21:03 UTC 2006 |
Jep has started singing from the bru-Bush-Rove songbook, sounds like.
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mcnally
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response 198 of 218:
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Feb 23 21:12 UTC 2006 |
re #194:
> Okay, but why? While I'll happily agree that everyone is better off
> with Hussein rotting away in a jail cell, it seems to me that he was
> largely contained as a threat. American planes regularly patrolled his
> airspace, sanctions (though imperfect) kept his resources in check, he
> didn't have the military might for cross-border excursions, whatever WMD
> programs he may have once had were rusty and dusty, and he didn't have
> any allies.
Well, let's see:
- He had billions of dollars at his disposal.
- Still controlled thousands of troops plus whatever secret security
apparatus Iraq had in place.
- Was in a far better position to destabilize the regional military
and political situation.
- Required a much greater ongoing commitment in terms of money,
military power, and diplomatic influence to keep contained.
- If the sanctions ended, was in an excellent position to once again
exert an extraordinary amount of influence over global petroleum
and financial markets.
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tod
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response 199 of 218:
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Feb 23 22:13 UTC 2006 |
re #198
How do those points differ from say Saudi Arabia or Syria?
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happyboy
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response 200 of 218:
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Feb 23 23:03 UTC 2006 |
or pakistan...HOME OF ALQAEDA!
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bru
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response 201 of 218:
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Feb 23 23:42 UTC 2006 |
al Queda in Iraq is responsible seeking to inflict civil war on the nation,
and they might have succeeded. one attack today included 50 people who
attended a peace march, pulled off a bus and executed. Hundreds have been
killed today, adn the Shia are taking revenge on Sunni mosques. Just as the
enemies of peace wanted.
The question is can teh Shia leaders get their followers back under control,
and if not, What side are we going to support.
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tod
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response 202 of 218:
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Feb 23 23:44 UTC 2006 |
al Qaeda of Iraq? BWAHAHAHA!
Nice way to ignore the escaped perps of 9/11 (i.e. Osama)
That's like saying "Hitler Jr." or "AIDS without deficiency"
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