response 175 of 219:

Jan 26 18:05 UTC 2005

My left arrow acts the same on my 101-key keyboard - BOTH left arrows.
Terminal type is vt100.  I am telnetted from linux.  Perhaps I should choose
linux instead.

response 177 of 219:

Jan 26 18:33 UTC 2005

The problem with the ' characters is fixed.  Thanks, Jan!  
Unfortunately I am limited to IE at work.  As IE was one of the first 
browsers with the capability to display XML, I am surprised it doesn't 
handle the ' character entity.  I wonder why it doesn't?

response 179 of 219:

Jan 26 19:49 UTC 2005

I think VT320 is the same as VT200 or VT102 with more features.  

response 181 of 219:

Jan 26 20:39 UTC 2005

Sindi:  In the old days "vt100" refered to an actual terminal you could put
on your desk rather than a protocol.  People would use these extremely dumb
computers to connect to servers, and what codes were sent to the server when
they hit and arrow key were different depending on what make and model of
terminal you had.  A DEC VT100 would send different codes than an IBM 3101
(I miss my trusty IBM 3101 - that thing could really hold a desk down).

Whatever software you use to connect to Grex (or under Unix, the terminal
window it runs in) pretends to be one or another of these fine old historical
monsters.  Usually either VT100 if the programmers were lazy, or a much
extended version of VT100 called ANSI if they were more ambitious.  So the
codes sent depend on the software on your computer, not on the actual keyboard
you are using.  You mention Linux.  Are you running xwindows?  If so, you
probably want 'xterm'.  If not, I guess probably 'ansi'.

However, I could be wrong about this.  Maybe your TERM setting is fine.  If
the arrow keys work for you in lynx, it is probably right.

Fronttalk doesn't actually do any of this logic itself.  It uses a library
module called "readline" that is also used by many of the shells on Grex, like
tcsh.  It would be very odd if your arrow keys worked in any of those, but
not in Fronttalk.

One thing just barely worth checking:  Type "display readline" in fronttalk.
It should say that readline is turned on and mention "Gnu" (since we are using
the Gnu readline library).

response 183 of 219:

Jan 27 13:37 UTC 2005

I have typed 'tset ansi' (which gave me the usual login messages for some
reason) and then ft and will now test arrow keys.  I still get [D.  My
terminal setting on my linux computer is 'linux'.  Then I choose vt100 at grex
(I also tried linux here with no better results).  Where do I type display
readline, at line start in fronttalk?
display readline
I just typed it and got nothing back.  I am not using X.  
Lynx and links work (offline anyway) as expected here.

response 187 of 219:

Jan 29 04:29 UTC 2005

Re resp:182: That's what happens when one company dominates the market 
and manages to push everyone else out.  Innovation comes to a halt. 
 
Re resp:184: Not exactly.  They lost a lawsuit with Sun, and aren't 
allowed to distribute their VM anymore.  I don't understand the 
details, but I think it had to do with them creating an incompatible 
version of Java by "embracing and extending" Sun's API. 
 

response 189 of 219:

Jan 30 06:43 UTC 2005

OK.  This time, I really think I've fixed the terminal server.  I had to
reconfigure each port, individually.

Dial-in *should* be working again.  Finally.

response 191 of 219:

Jan 30 13:56 UTC 2005

I tried to dial in ten minutes ago and got three lines of garbage
followed by a hangup,  so I telnetted but the load average was 89 with
ggg running 90 or more copies of the same process for the past 4 hours
(minutes?) or so. It was too slow to figure out if this is a dial-in
vandal.

response 193 of 219:

Jan 31 21:21 UTC 2005

Any chance you can install the current version on m-net ?

response 195 of 219:

Feb 2 02:34 UTC 2005

Bummer.

response 197 of 219:

Feb 2 05:43 UTC 2005

I have no root access on M-Net, so I can't install anything there.

I did however install version 0.9.1 here.  Fixes a few more bugs.  Adds
a few more fairly obscure features.  Read Garager if you want gory details.

response 199 of 219:

Feb 2 22:07 UTC 2005

Two lines, two numbers, in a hunt group.  So folks really only need to know
one number, just like now.