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Grex > Coop8 > #76: Arbornet Board Invites Grex, HVCN Board Members to Meeting | |
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robh
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response 175 of 229:
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Aug 7 15:35 UTC 1996 |
I believe there are certain aspects of state law that have
to do with members of not-for-profit corporations, and I'm
sure rcurl will be with us shortly to tell us what they are. >8)
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ajax
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response 176 of 229:
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Aug 7 18:34 UTC 1996 |
I don't see any problems with creating an informal (i.e. not
requiring bylaw changes) non-voting, non-telnetting membership
class. It seems unnecessary, since almost the same thing is
accomplished by making a non-membership donation, but if it
brings in another donation, why not?
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draven
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response 177 of 229:
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Aug 7 19:50 UTC 1996 |
It could be done quite easily. Just add them to the 'member' group,
but not voters or internet.
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popcorn
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response 178 of 229:
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Aug 7 22:32 UTC 1996 |
I'm under the impression that Selena wants Internet access too.
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pfv
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response 179 of 229:
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Aug 8 01:15 UTC 1996 |
me too... And I remember my grandfather saying: "People in Hell want
Icewater".
I don't see verified use as a problem: never have, never will.
I *DO* see unverified users scurrying thru the Internet (and other) as a
potential problem - for the same reason that cops are going to going to
use if you allow a guest in your home to murder another guest or your
neighbor (particularly if something you own is the weapon).
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tsty
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response 180 of 229:
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Aug 8 08:06 UTC 1996 |
fear of a "problem" is creating more grief than it's worth. if selena
gets caught cracking DoD ... remove the internet access.
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mdw
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response 181 of 229:
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Aug 8 18:09 UTC 1996 |
So why is selena more deserving than zbao, poncho, ulissi, surachai, kub, or
pramodp?
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pfv
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response 182 of 229:
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Aug 8 20:21 UTC 1996 |
re 180:
Yeah, closing the barn door after the horse have fled is well
known to be a soverign remedy in curing horse fleeing the barn.
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davel
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response 183 of 229:
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Aug 9 14:34 UTC 1996 |
TS, the "grief" in this case is complaints from selena & you. I'm not sure
that's "more grief than it's worth"; I'd value the hassle caused by problems
a lot more heavily than you do. *I* don't have to deal with them, but neither
do you, which may be related to your view that they're no big deal.
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tsty
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response 184 of 229:
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Aug 12 10:21 UTC 1996 |
she offered to support grex with a donation. aside from that, neither
more or less deserving or undeserving than any other loginid. i think that
makes a difference.
since non-verification is requested, and (apparently) some law says that
*voting* members have to be "verified" (i'm still not real certain about
that, but that seems to be the contemporary position), selena wouldn't be
able to vote. perhaps that's justa big whoop to her, i.e., no big deal.
if i had the opportunity to 'deal with it' my position would not change,
and it didn't when i was in a postion to 'deal with it' a while back. I
consider that the fear of a potential hassle is creating the worthless
grief. further, it is my position that if there ever were 'grief' from
such a situation it is a worthy 'grief' and while i would be disappointed,
certainly, i would not presume to (rhetoric to follow) shackle the
masses for the anticipated miscreant behaviour of an individual (end rhetoric).
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brighn
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response 185 of 229:
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Aug 12 16:27 UTC 1996 |
(and, inthe case of selena, it isn't as though there's anyone around who, say,
half the baffers have met in person who's willing to vouch for her, which
isn't the case of most of your Net terrorists: selena has yet to be shown
to be anything or anyone other than who she claims to be. If she was really
out to garotte the world using a n anonymous BBS, whould she (a) hang out for
nearly two years trying to convince admin of her good intentions or (b) give
up after four months and go maraud elsewhere? I know this question is hard,
folks, so I'll give you some extra time to think about it...)
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rickyb
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response 186 of 229:
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Aug 12 16:45 UTC 1996 |
So...when is this joint meeting of grex, mnet and hvcn?
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scott
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response 187 of 229:
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Aug 12 22:47 UTC 1996 |
Re: 185
Selena has yet to be shown as anything or anyone, due to her rather strong
desire for privacy. Selena could be *anything*, for all we know.
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rickyb
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response 188 of 229:
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Aug 13 16:57 UTC 1996 |
Hey dpc! Care to update us on this meeting and get your item back on track?!?
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selena
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response 189 of 229:
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Aug 14 05:05 UTC 1996 |
Well, scott, that's because you've never called my voicemail, or
bumped into me at the Ren Fair. Brighn has.
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rickyb
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response 190 of 229:
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Aug 14 16:34 UTC 1996 |
< hey, sel...can I bump into you? > ,}
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brighn
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response 191 of 229:
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Aug 14 21:21 UTC 1996 |
*Brighn looks at Ricky B and points him to the Sexuality II conference*
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rickyb
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response 192 of 229:
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Aug 15 20:38 UTC 1996 |
just a joke...jeeze. did you miss the smiley?
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dpc
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response 193 of 229:
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Aug 29 01:40 UTC 1996 |
I expect the joint meeting will be some Sunday in September. I'll be
out of town from 9/1 until 9/9. The Arbornet Board meets on 9/11.
Probably we will finalize a suggested time/date/place then.
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robh
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response 194 of 229:
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Aug 29 05:06 UTC 1996 |
I'll be at RenFest on the 15th (Scottish weekend, yay!) but the 22nd
and 29th should be open for me.
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rcurl
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response 195 of 229:
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Aug 30 03:16 UTC 1996 |
Members of non-profit corporations: State law gives non-profits total
freedom in having any number of classes of membership, qualifications for
membership, and whatever rights and privileges they wish, including the
right to vote. Members *entitled to vote* must be notified of matters
upon which their vote is allowed, of meetings at which they can vote, and
only voting members count toward a quorum for a vote (if a quorum is
required). The organization must keep a record of its members in all
categories. The specifications of classes of membership and their
privileges and duties are provided for in the Articles or Bylaws.
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selena
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response 196 of 229:
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Aug 30 13:37 UTC 1996 |
So, so long as I can't vote...
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adbarr
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response 197 of 229:
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Aug 30 20:53 UTC 1996 |
You can certainly vote. Whether your vote is counted in determining the
decision at hand is another question. Vote early! Vote often! But always vote,
it gives the poll watchers justification for being there. Perhaps votes,
unrecogized today will return someday to make a difference. Like comets or
unknown asteroids.
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ladyevil
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response 198 of 229:
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Aug 31 15:20 UTC 1996 |
*Slow smile* Thank you, Arnold, I needed that.
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srw
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response 199 of 229:
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Sep 6 00:15 UTC 1996 |
The 8th and 15th are already taken for me. I have the 22nd available in
the morning only, and the 29th is available on my calendar all day.
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