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lilmo
response 175 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:40 UTC 1995

And I believe that your actions fall on the latter side.
selena
response 176 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 18:11 UTC 1995

        And I believe that they can quickly lead to actions being
done on the former side.
lilmo
response 177 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 04:53 UTC 1995

True, but that's what her conscience, and friends and colleagues, are for.
selena
response 178 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 05:34 UTC 1995

        Well, this friend is advising against getting *that* close,
to begin with..
sidhe
response 179 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 15:47 UTC 1995

        I would like to input that it could be seen poorly by those you
wish to attract.
mlady
response 180 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 19:22 UTC 1995

        Alright, when you guys are getting ready for board voting, try
something like this, if you're still so bent about the political correctness
of the members of it:
        It's time to nominate board members, please do so in coop #whatnot.
As always, we are equal opportunity board-ers, according to rce, sex, creed,
or religion. :)

        Put the smiley at the end, and MAYBE it won't bug anyone, while getting
the message out.
I still think this is silly.
lilmo
response 181 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 18:13 UTC 1995

At one level, yes, it IS silly.  On another, it is a matter of concern to
appear to be exclusive in that manner.  *shrug*  There's not a whole lot we
can do about it, though, so there's not much to be gained from harping on it.
ajax
response 182 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 19:12 UTC 1995

People can certainly *try* to do something about it (e.g. vote!).
 
A fairly meaningless factoid on the topic, which may attract
flames, so I don't know why I'm saying it, but: of Grex's 93
members, i recall meeting 24, and of those, all seemed caucasian,
and 21 seemed male.
lilmo
response 183 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 21:28 UTC 1995

Yes, we can vote, but no-one of non-white-male persuasion appears on the
ballot, there's essentially nothing we can do.
ajax
response 184 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 23:35 UTC 1995

Ok, then a person can nominate a non-white-male, or encourage non-white-
males to become members, or give Grex a try...people can do something if
they want to encourage greater ethnic/gender diversity on Grex's board.
remmers
response 185 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 16:02 UTC 1995

Indeed, and I said much the same thing 50 responses ago in #134.
Anyway, to judge by how the current nominations are going, there
doesn't seem to be a shortage of female candidates.
wisdom
response 186 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 14:44 UTC 1995

        So, nominate away! Just don't go asking for trouble with broad
advertisment.
lilmo
response 187 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 04:28 UTC 1995

Re #183:  Between 'but' and 'no-one', there should be the word 'if'.

Re #184:  your second suggestion there is, I believe, exactly what popcorn
was trying to do.

Re #185:  No one has suggested that firmer steps be taken, if I recall.

Re #186:  If one doesn't know who falls into those categories, then one would
be at a loss to make such nominations, wouldn't one?  In that situation, a
broad advertisement is about the only option available.  *shrug*
selena
response 188 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 04:58 UTC 1995

        Yes, mark, but not a good option.
davel
response 189 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 10:08 UTC 1995

I believe that the suggestion was for more female board members, not for
more "broads".  OK?
popcorn
response 190 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 14:33 UTC 1995

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adbarr
response 191 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 16:06 UTC 1995

Stop it davel, I have work to do. <LOL>
selena
response 192 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 16:57 UTC 1995

        Actually, it was for more racial diversity, too.
lilmo
response 193 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 19:37 UTC 1995

Just out of curiosity, why do you see that as "asking for trouble", and "not
a good option"?
sidhe
response 194 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 00:02 UTC 1995

        I think I see a reason why: ingeneral, it seems that the communities
of minority race want not to be coddled, or to be given special
consideration, when it comes to what they do or do not do. They
wish to be treated no differently because _that_ is the true sign
of color-blindness.
selena
response 195 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 15:16 UTC 1995

        Well, my reason was that if people want to be thoguht of
as peopel, then saying you *really* encourage one kind, even if it's
theirs, makes them think you don't see people as poeple, but as colors.
adbarr
response 196 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 16:32 UTC 1995

As long as they are bright colors it is ok. But, of course, you define
the real problem. What are the reasons people hate, or fear? What are
the lessons of the Million Man March? <Please, Farrahkan and his positions
are not the same thing, I hope.>
lilmo
response 197 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 01:54 UTC 1995

OK, I see your point.  I disagree, but that is inevitable, sometimes.  :-)
wisdom
response 198 of 198: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 18:23 UTC 1995

        Hey, crunch all you want, we'll make more..
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