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nharmon
response 171 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:57 UTC 2006

I have to say that remmers is one of the people on here who I have a
great deal of respect for and while I regret he is stepping down, I'm
thankful for the service he has given thus far.
spooked
response 172 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:21 UTC 2006

Thick/thin remmer's skin, he could be doing this nobly in the best 
interests of Grex.  I'm willing to lend him that benefit-of-doubt.

Hopefully, the dynamic duo will be looking at themselves seriously now 
also.

keesan
response 173 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:40 UTC 2006

I think remmers got tired of your complaints.  
spooked
response 174 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:20 UTC 2006

Oh, I was not complaining, for the record.  I was stating things as I and 
others I know saw them.  I also tried not to get personal.  In fact, it 
can be shown that I did not (initiate) attack (on) remmers personally.  
On the contrary, he was rather stabbing of my efforts to contribute 
technically, and even more so in the fact I unselfishly was determined to 
highlight the political quadmire that Grex has got itself into.  What 
pissed me much more though, was his completely unreasonable appraisal of Dan. 

Hopefully the dynamic duo will be reading this (though, I doubt that 
very much - unless, of course, they have been tipped off) and have some 
decency in stepping down.


tsty
response 175 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:24 UTC 2006

ouch - thankxx remmers for all the help over all those years.  
  
i'm sad to see you resign.  be good or have fun.
naftee
response 176 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:50 UTC 2006

thanks remmers !

be sure to keep entering crazy items on m-net with those subliminal messages
dealing with your resignation

or something
nharmon
response 177 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 12:41 UTC 2006

LOL! I find it funny that Sindi of all people would start the pointing
fingers "he resigned because you complained too much" given her
expectations of staff and the relentless complaints she has made of
spam, etc.
cyklone
response 178 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 14:04 UTC 2006

Unintended humor is great.
spooked
response 179 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 22:11 UTC 2006

Sindi is an ironic type of lady - got to love 'em :)


keesan
response 180 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 23:38 UTC 2006

Sindi was not being ironic.
spooked
response 181 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 00:16 UTC 2006

*giggles* :)
jadecat
response 182 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 00:21 UTC 2006

I'm really sorry to read about your resignations Remmers, but it's
definitely understandable. 
krokus
response 183 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 01:28 UTC 2006

wow...  I wish I would have read this before the Grexlunch today.

John, thanks for the efforts over the years.
spooked
response 184 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 01:50 UTC 2006

This is a defining moment in the history of Grex.  If we can get some 
fresh, keen, enthusiastic blood on the board - and, especially staff, Grex 
may survive (BUT more importantly GROW).

If the dynamic duo can realise they have the power to make a difference, 
they should also do the noble deed.

keesan
response 185 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 01:54 UTC 2006

Would you please stop talking in cliches?  Try saying what you said in half
the words.
spooked
response 186 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 03:17 UTC 2006

Sindi: I could try, however it's what comes naturally :) 

Afterall, how do you think I got a PhD? :P


spooked
response 187 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:39 UTC 2007

I move that Dan (cross) and myself (spooked) be re-admitted to staff.

I also move that no staffer can blazarringly revoke root privileges unless 
there is irrefutable intention from a staffer to harm Grex.  If a staffer 
blazarringly revokes another staffer's root privileges, that staffer 
should be punished by removing his/her (the blazarringly revoking) root 
privileges and not being allowed back on staff for a minimum 12 month 
period.
cmcgee
response 188 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:47 UTC 2007

I do not believe that spooked has demonstrated the attitudes and people skills
that would make him a useful member of staff.  I would be strongly against
his re-admission.
spooked
response 189 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:57 UTC 2007

Oh really :)

Then how was my attitude, technical skills, and people skills never 
questioned in over 6 years when I was a staff member?

And, how was no staff member against my recent request to be readmitted?


krj
response 190 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 21:05 UTC 2007

I like the bit in his proposal about PUNISHMENT.
  :)
spooked
response 191 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 21:25 UTC 2007

Like I have said, Grex is at the cross-roads (pardon the pun) in its 
history.

We need staff with the technical skills WILLING to get solutions for its 
members and users, instead of dividing its staff.

The first motion I made undoubtedly assists this noble mission.

The second motion protects the dynamic-like-duo-type who have clearly not 
been active or helpful in building a staff team who is solution-oriented 
IN THE PAST 2-3 YEARS. 

What shall Grex decide?  It is your future!


tod
response 192 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 22:26 UTC 2007

 I also move that no staffer can blazarringly revoke root privileges unless
 there is irrefutable intention from a staffer to harm Grex. 

If you're talking about non-staff in possession of root then I disagree.  Why
wouldn't someone be pro-active in protecting the system if they see a
non-staff person doing stuff as root?

I think the proper solution is a better change control process of which other
staff are not to "interfere" once there has been an approval to proceed with
the "improvement" (patching, updating, fixing, coding, etc.)
The approval process for implementation shouldn't have to pass all staff but
rather should meet some criteria and have a period where all staff have had
a chance to voice concerns.  

Let's focus on this approval method and how it would work so all staff can
participate without an 800 lb gorilla stepping in on a whim.
spooked
response 193 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 22:47 UTC 2007

The crux of that episode was that it was vast overkill, rude, and no 
apology was given.  Clearly STeve's actions were (in that instance, and 
other instances) counter-productive and team-divisive.  

As I have stated numerous times, I have no issues with STeve's technical 
capabilities - though, he does not apply them nearly as much as he once did.  

What frustrates (actually infruiates) me and many others, is he nazi style of 
'leadership'.  If Grex can afford to lose highly capable and participating 
staff members by the half dozen to dozen (as has happened in the last 2-3 
years), then let us not change this 'leadership' example.  

Grex - the choice is yours.
spooked
response 194 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 22:51 UTC 2007

re: 192: No, Tod - I am not talking about non-staff :)

I am talking about staff blazarringly revoking staff!

krj
response 195 of 236: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 23:03 UTC 2007

"Blazarringly" must be something in Australian English which I have
not encountered before.
 
What I love is how Mic is shaping this up into the struggle between
Good and Evil.   
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