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ea
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response 17 of 76:
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Mar 9 17:28 UTC 2002 |
Clear Channel owns 107.1 and 102.9 fm, as well as 1050 am, and one
other AM station that I'm not remembering right now. 1050 is a sports
talk station, most of the shows are local people, although they do
pickup some ESPN radio personalities (Tony Kornheiser comes to mind).
107.1 is mostly local people, but they broadcast the Delilah show from
7-midnight weekdays. I have no clue about 102.9. (I know they play
country music, but I don't know if the DJ's are local.
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jmsaul
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response 18 of 76:
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Mar 9 17:31 UTC 2002 |
Is 106.7 owned by Clear Channel, or is it part of a different national chain?
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jp2
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response 19 of 76:
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Mar 9 17:54 UTC 2002 |
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krj
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response 20 of 76:
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Mar 9 19:05 UTC 2002 |
Sindi in resp:16 ::
Just this morning I heard my first ad for the XM satellite digital radio
system on WWJ-AM, so I guess they are now looking for customers
in the Detroit area. The ad says they are offering 100 channels, of
which 71 are music channels; it's a subscription service for $10/month
and the radios, which I believe are oriented towards car use, start
at $300. The competing satellite radio system, called Sirius, should
be following imminently. XM and Sirius are both using their
diverse selection of music as a marketing angle -- each is offering
3 or 4 classical channels, for example.
If you want immediate gratification: I listened to about 10 hours of
"digital radio" on various BBC radio channels this week, via
Real Audio and the Internet. However, this requires
a high-speed network connection for decent sound quality -- a 56K
dialup gives a poor-sounding signal which drops out a lot --
and I don't think you can run Real Player on a DOS machine, you'll
need at least Win95.
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tpryan
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response 21 of 76:
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Mar 9 19:13 UTC 2002 |
1290am - in the past known as WOIB, WNRS and WIQB-AM.
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bruin
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response 22 of 76:
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Mar 9 22:11 UTC 2002 |
AM 1290 is currently WCAS, and has a "nostalgia" fomat.
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keesan
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response 23 of 76:
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Mar 9 23:53 UTC 2002 |
Realaudio also requires an extra phone line if you don't have DSL.
We are paying $12/month for the last party line they ever sold in Ann Arbor
(no other party on it) and no tone service. Competitive in price with XM
and you get more than 3 channels. I wonder when someone will come up with
an appliance that is cheaper than a computer to play Realaudio on, which lets
you change the software annually.
We went to the local cable company once and checked out their three classical
stations and they were not worth paying $40/month for (which would include
Cable TV). No commentary, just a randomized selection of what they thought
would appear to the buyer.
Thanks for the info. Not very encouraging - I was hoping for a larger
selection than you can get via analog radio.
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keesan
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response 24 of 76:
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Mar 10 00:37 UTC 2002 |
www.xmradio.com. Depends what you count as a classical station. They do have
live performances and commentary and interviews, from NY City. XMRadio
appears to be Japanese. There is one 'classics' station with music from the
last 1000 years (which they define as Renaissance to the present) and a VOX
station with classical vocal music (opera to oratorio, they say), plus
something called Pops (sort of classical) and 'Fine Tuning' - a mixture of
classical, jazz, rock and everything else, an oasis of fine listening. Their
sample program included a lot of modern popular music and Ravel's Bolero as
the non-vocal selection. I count two classical stations here. On the regular
radio I still get three. People with Realaudio can listen to samples of
XMradio offerings. Do you need separate digital receivers for XM and Sirius?
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jp2
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response 25 of 76:
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Mar 10 01:16 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 26 of 76:
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Mar 11 10:42 UTC 2002 |
Yeah, it's interesting to see XM finally out-- the buzz had been on it
for a while now, and yes, it did seem geared to the car market.
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keesan
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response 27 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:34 UTC 2002 |
Sirius is also apparently only aimed at cars. They have symphony, chamber,
and vocal classical stations, and also one folk station (in the 'variety'
category). I wonder why nobody has come up with a broadcast radio equivalent
of cable TV that would bring in radio stations from all over the country.
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slynne
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response 28 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:47 UTC 2002 |
They have a cable radio thing that is the radio equivalent of cable tv.
It isnt broadcast but instead comes in on the cable lines that also
bring the tv.
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other
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response 29 of 76:
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Mar 11 16:59 UTC 2002 |
One of the satelite radio systems apparently carries an NPR channel, the
other has no public radio channel at all, which makes it absolutely out
of the question for me, all other objections aside.
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keesan
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response 30 of 76:
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Mar 11 17:39 UTC 2002 |
We went to listen to cable radio at the cable TV company and they did not have
any of the broadcast radio stations, only something created solely for cable
radio use, similar to the satellite digital radio, with about three classical
stations playing selections in random order without commentary. I was hoping
for stations from various places around the country or even better yet the
world, same as can be gotten now with a computer and dedicated phone line or
DSL line.
With three local NPR stations, why have a satellite NPR station?
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other
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response 31 of 76:
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Mar 11 19:38 UTC 2002 |
For those occasions when I travel outside the range of the local
stations. Why else bother with satellite radio?
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krj
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response 32 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:04 UTC 2002 |
Well, for me, the main appeal of satellite radio would be listening to
music programming chosen by people for artistic reasons.
But then, I'm one of a presumed minority of Americans who have
tuned out commercial music radio almost completely, with the very
occasional exception of the classic rock station in Livingston
County, as I drive by it.
The point of Sirius and XM, for me, isn't that they are digital,
or that they are being delivered by satellite: the point is that
they have found a way to bypass the crushing, unimaginative ad-sales
mindset which has taken total possession of land-based radio.
It might be useful to remember that the paying customers of
Clear Channel and the other media corporations are the advertisers;
the listeners are just the product being sold to the advertisers,
and the programming has been relegated to the status of bait.
For XM and Sirius, on the other hand, the paying customers are the
listeners, so the digital satellite people are going to have to keep
their audience excited and happy. It's an HBO approach to radio.
(I still dunno if I'm going to buy into their service. Neither XM
nor Sirius seems to offer a folk music channel which aligns with my
definition of folk music, and listening to the services at home
seems to be difficult, and at work, impossible. The business
consensus which seems to have developed is that radio has dwindled
to an in-car medium for most Americans.)
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krj
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response 33 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:05 UTC 2002 |
((Winter Agora #255 <---> Music #80))
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keesan
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response 34 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:18 UTC 2002 |
I would listen to satellite radio if they played the same things as
non-satellite public classical music stations, of which we no longer have any
local ones. The non-local ones that you can still get on a radio come in
hissy unless you have a very good tuner and listen in mono. And I would also
appreciate stations that did not switch from music to news fro 4 pm to 7:30
pm, meaning stations from the west coast (with a 3-hour offset). And that
did not switch to jazz on weekends, or all play only opera on Saturdays, or
the same canned music from NPR late at night complete with blaring commercials
for other NPR programs.
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slynne
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response 35 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:24 UTC 2002 |
Except for NPR, I only listen to the radio in my car.
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anderyn
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response 36 of 76:
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Mar 11 20:49 UTC 2002 |
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jazz
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response 37 of 76:
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Mar 11 21:49 UTC 2002 |
I'd love to see mobile bandwidth become so common and cheap that you
could subscribe to an internet radio station in your car; I think that'd be
enough to bring me back to radio.
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krj
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response 38 of 76:
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Mar 11 21:54 UTC 2002 |
I would assume we would get there eventually; this would have horrible
implications for the multi-billion dollar satellite investments
made by XM and Sirius.
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flem
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response 39 of 76:
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Mar 12 02:26 UTC 2002 |
One of my coworkers has XM radio. He seems pretty happy with it, though I'm
a little less than impressed with the variety of what I hear from his office.
w.r.t. classical stations, I've still not seen a match for andante.com.
I've started to check out bbc radio a little, based on ken's rantings :) but
I've yet to find any shows that I'm really impressed with. Not ready to give
up yet, though...
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tpryan
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response 40 of 76:
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Mar 12 02:44 UTC 2002 |
94.9fm is classic rock that rocks. The station pats itself on
the back a bit less often, also.
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krj
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response 41 of 76:
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Mar 12 03:31 UTC 2002 |
flem in resp:39 :: are you paying for andante? Can you lay out some
details about their audio operations? I've only used their site to
read text articles.
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