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dah
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response 17 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:32 UTC 2003 |
Really? Spanish! It's perfectly parsable in English too!
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twenex
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response 18 of 42:
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Sep 16 23:55 UTC 2003 |
The ability to spout words like "parsable" does not one a linguist make.
Fortunately.
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dah
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response 19 of 42:
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Sep 17 00:18 UTC 2003 |
I bet you don't know what it says in English.
Fortunately. (Or you'd be embarassed you wrote it.)
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twenex
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response 20 of 42:
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Sep 17 00:23 UTC 2003 |
Bzzzt! Wrong, but thankyou for playing.
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carson
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response 21 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:09 UTC 2003 |
(wow. the first words that occurred to me while trying to read the first
paragraph of resp:16 were Spanish words, but I'd managed to convince myself
that it was supposed to be in English, based on the rest of the item.
bravo!)
(data point: I haven't had any problem reading any of the entries with
transposed letters, but I found that losing vowels slowed my reading
considerably.)
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janc
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response 22 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:21 UTC 2003 |
Re 8: The cmoanmd to hdie a rocpsnee in Psapcion is "ergapxtue." Or if you
use Fanltrotk, you can jsut type "hdie."
I'm tiryng to keep wrod sehaps arppemixloaty ccerort in tihs rocpsnee.
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mynxcat
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response 23 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:23 UTC 2003 |
What's that command in Picospan again? Somehow, I find it more difficult
reading this response than #0
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russ
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response 24 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:47 UTC 2003 |
Word scrambler from Greg Cronau:
#include <stdio.h>
main(){int i,j,l;char c,*b,*d,*e,f[2<<9],g[2<<9];srandom(time(0));while(b
=fgets(f,2<<9,stdin)){do{for(d=g,e=b;isalpha(*d++=*b++););if((l=((d-g)-1))>
3){for(c=g[1],i=2;(i<(l-1))&&(g[i]==c);i++);if(i<(l-1)){while(strncmp(e,g,l
)==0)for(i=1;i<(l-1);c=g[i],g[i]=g[j=(random()%(l-2))+1],g[j]=c,i++);strncpy
(e,g,l);}}}while(*(b+=*--b?1:0));fputs(f,stdout);}}
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remmers
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response 25 of 42:
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Sep 17 02:55 UTC 2003 |
D-
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tod
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response 26 of 42:
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Sep 17 03:03 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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sholmes
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response 27 of 42:
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Sep 17 04:02 UTC 2003 |
skipping the vowels is okay ..but you beter keep the first vowel in words
which begin with vowels ..like arnd , annyms , antnyms
.( beter = better )
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other
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response 28 of 42:
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Sep 17 04:40 UTC 2003 |
I'm surprised to note at this point that no one has mentioned that the
primary element of readability in longer words is the syllable.
Multisyllabic words with the first letter in correct position and the
rest scrambled are far easier to parse if the letters which compse each
syllable are grouped in the correct order of syllables, and scrambled
within that smaller range. This is hinted at by the comments on word
FORM in #2 and #12.
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twenex
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response 29 of 42:
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Sep 17 08:42 UTC 2003 |
'Nuff said.
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remmers
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response 30 of 42:
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Sep 17 11:21 UTC 2003 |
I am skacitepl of Eirc's atoissern taht sbalylle oderr pevtoresrain
is carnetl to rildaibeaty.
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other
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response 31 of 42:
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Sep 17 12:55 UTC 2003 |
Scrambling without regard to syllables, in my experience since first
reading about this, has significantly increased the time required to
parse longer words correctly, despite context.
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mynxcat
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response 32 of 42:
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Sep 17 13:41 UTC 2003 |
The syllable scrambling aids in larger words - 3 syllables or more. For two
syllable words it doesn't matter.
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rcurl
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response 33 of 42:
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Sep 17 16:22 UTC 2003 |
I tried reading #0 out loud and think it is considerably less intelligible
that way. There must be something to the "modular" word recognition
hypothesis. The mental processing of reading seems quite apart from the mental
processing of speech (not surprisingly).
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other
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response 34 of 42:
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Sep 17 20:23 UTC 2003 |
Visual (and even tactile, as in the case of Braille) processing is a much
lower level, and therefore faster, brain function than speech processing.
This is predicated on the earlier development of the sensory functions.
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rcurl
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response 35 of 42:
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Sep 17 22:25 UTC 2003 |
I think it is also that one quickly rescans fixed visual inputs, which one
cannot do with auditory input.
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keesan
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response 36 of 42:
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Sep 17 22:53 UTC 2003 |
Jdeigert (Jim) who is dyslexic tends to just look at the first and last letter
of a word and guess the middle. Often the guessed word turns into something
edible. Fresh eggs turned into fish eggs, for instance.
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dah
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response 37 of 42:
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Sep 17 22:57 UTC 2003 |
O Mother.
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tsty
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response 38 of 42:
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Sep 18 04:50 UTC 2003 |
#0 is pretty darn eadabkle .. out loud, it sukxx .. the disemvoweled
words are harder.
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oval
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response 39 of 42:
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Sep 19 15:41 UTC 2003 |
..you're one to tlak.
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tsty
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response 40 of 42:
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Sep 21 17:28 UTC 2003 |
rihgt ....
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oval
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response 41 of 42:
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Sep 22 15:02 UTC 2003 |
;P
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