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Grex > Agorage > #6: Member initative: Allow members to host images | |
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naftee
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response 17 of 183:
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Sep 5 23:22 UTC 2006 |
I think that is a sound proposal.
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aruba
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response 18 of 183:
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Sep 6 15:05 UTC 2006 |
I would like to see a line that says, "The staff may also set a limit on the
size of images, which will apply to all users."
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naftee
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response 19 of 183:
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Sep 6 20:17 UTC 2006 |
right here :
"If a member of staff determines, at their discretion, that any
image is using too much of Grex's resources, including by being
too large, they may take action to limit that use, including
deleting the image. "
That's in resp:16, mark.
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scholar
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response 20 of 183:
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Sep 6 20:19 UTC 2006 |
Yeah, I'm not really sure what Mark's talking about, but the official proposal
now includes his line appended to the ende.
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kingjon
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response 21 of 183:
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Sep 6 20:54 UTC 2006 |
If I were in favor of this proposal -- I'm not -- I would want a line allowing
Grex (staff, probably, with user recourse to the board to prevent abuse) to
remove images in violation of Grex's other policies or of the law.
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scholar
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response 22 of 183:
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Sep 6 20:56 UTC 2006 |
Oh, okay. Good point!
Append the following line: Staff may remove any image that violates Grex's
policies or the laws under which Cyberspace Communications, Inc. operates.
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mcnally
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response 23 of 183:
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Sep 6 22:24 UTC 2006 |
Here's why I don't like the idea of hosting images: I would like to keep
the people who keep Grex running out of the content evaluation business.
By having a content-neutral policy banning all images, staff doesn't get
put in the position of making personal decisions for themselves which images
are acceptable and which are not.
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tod
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response 24 of 183:
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Sep 6 22:35 UTC 2006 |
So if its ascii art then you're okay with it but if its photographic art then
you aren't? Is that the divining rod of censorship which prompts a "lack of
human resources" claim? I didn't want the folks who run Grex in the content
evaluation business either...whether that be textual expression or otherwise.
I don't see a huge difference, really.
True, if there's a complain of kiddie porn or credit card #'s on a webpage
then the staff should react but there is no difference in their legality even
though one is text and one is imagery.
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naftee
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response 25 of 183:
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Sep 6 23:13 UTC 2006 |
Exactly what tod said. There can be appropriate content consisting of images,
and totally inappropriate content consisting of text. GreX staffers really
shouldn't be in the "content evaluation business", unless it involves
something illegal or hogs system resources. Both exceptions are covered in
scholar's proposal.
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mcnally
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response 26 of 183:
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Sep 6 23:52 UTC 2006 |
re #24, 25: I'm not pretending that images are the only format
where one has to make decisions about legality but I honestly
believe that in practice with images the "grey area" is substantially
larger, calling for a substantially higher number of subjective
judgments.
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tod
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response 27 of 183:
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Sep 7 00:10 UTC 2006 |
I'd agree with that. Allowing even one more image will mean a higher number
of subjective judgments.
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aruba
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response 28 of 183:
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Sep 7 15:53 UTC 2006 |
Scholar, could we see the whole proposal in one response?
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scholar
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response 29 of 183:
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Sep 8 00:08 UTC 2006 |
Sure:
Members of Cyberspacce Commmunications, Inc., will be allowed to host images
in their webspace on Grex.
If a member of staff determines, at their discretion, that any image is using
too much of Grex's resources, including by being too large, they may take
action to limit that use, including deleting the image. If staff determines
that a member has persistently or egregiously abused their privilege to host
images, that member's ability to host images may be restricted.
The staff may set a limit on the on the size of images, which will apply to all
users.
The staff may also remove any image which violates Cyberspace Communication's
policies or violates the laws under which it operates.
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aruba
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response 30 of 183:
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Sep 8 00:44 UTC 2006 |
OK, I'll endorse bringing that to a vote. I haven't decided if I'll vote
for it or not. I don't like member-only perks, because Grex is not a
fee-for-service organization. But I'm interested to find out how the rest
of the membership feels about it.
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naftee
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response 31 of 183:
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Sep 8 03:06 UTC 2006 |
GreX is a fee-for-what organisation, then, Mark ?
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nharmon
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response 32 of 183:
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Sep 8 12:50 UTC 2006 |
Well, supposedly when you become a member you are doing so to support
Grex's mission (whatever that is). Its like, you don't become a member
of the Humane Society to get free dog care.
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tod
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response 33 of 183:
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Sep 9 00:42 UTC 2006 |
Speaking of dog car, I took my son to the Ringling Bros circus last night and
there were filthy hippy picketers outside with mangled animal photos on their
picket signs. Quicker than you can say "The kid from Detroit called the pigs
on you", the boys in blue came out in force and made them hide their signs
and stand out of the way so we could go inside to watch the tortured and
abused dogs/cats run around on their hindlegs for treats.
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cross
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response 34 of 183:
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Sep 9 04:22 UTC 2006 |
Ruff ruff.
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tod
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response 35 of 183:
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Sep 9 15:30 UTC 2006 |
The point I was getting at was that porn is not the only type of image people
might take offense at.
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trig
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response 36 of 183:
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Sep 9 19:50 UTC 2006 |
steve, as useless you are and as smart as scholar is you should just fess up
to your wrong doing with a gmail account of his, crawl under some rock, and
fuck off. you are an annoying fat pig with an attitude that just won't die
all for no reason. :(
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other
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response 37 of 183:
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Sep 10 06:13 UTC 2006 |
Wow. Reading #36 is like a peek into bizarro-world.
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twenex
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response 38 of 183:
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Sep 10 11:30 UTC 2006 |
Amein.
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steve
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response 39 of 183:
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Sep 12 01:44 UTC 2006 |
The problem with this is how to implement it, time wise.
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cross
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response 40 of 183:
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Sep 12 10:51 UTC 2006 |
Just edit the apache config file and permit images.
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steve
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response 41 of 183:
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Sep 12 16:12 UTC 2006 |
Well sure, but I'm talking about how to implement the watching
of usage. If someone has a perfectly legitimate and neat site on
Grex that starts consuming 300M a day, we'd need to throttle that
back. Yeah, it isn't likely that we'll have something like that
here, but it could be, if it got slashdotted or something.
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