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sabre
response 17 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:06 UTC 2003

Of course I do...She gave full her lincense when she opened her fucking legs.
She made her choice and exercised her WILL. 
ric
response 18 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:13 UTC 2003

I think abortion is great.  Every girl should have at least one.

Heck, how about mandating abortion for girls under 21 and those under a
certain income level?  We don't need  poor people having kids.
janc
response 19 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:14 UTC 2003

<Begin Counter-Troll Mode>
So what's the big deal about killing an unborn baby anyway?  There's no
shortage.  The world could do with a good deal fewer new babies.  If you
abort a 6 month old fetus, what the heck, it only takes six months and a
modest amount of effort to replace one.  We only think babies are precious
because we are programmed by evolution to want to care for our little ones.
It's part of survival of the species.  But the species is in no danger of
dieing out and that particular evolutionary impulse is not 100% appropriate
in a world where overpopulation is a bigger issue.  Killing a baby is more
of  a crime against the parents, than it is a crime against the fetus.  The
fetus is hardly a thinking being at all.  A gerbil has more awareness.  If
the parents have all sorts of hopes and aspirations for the fetus, and an
emotional attachment to it, then nobody should have the right to deprive
them of their baby.  It's a pursuit of happiness thing - lots of people
find children vital to their happiness, so they have a right to have them.
But if the parents don't want it, then it has no value to anyone, and
aborting it is the best outcome all around.
<End Counter-Troll Mode>
flem
response 20 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:18 UTC 2003

re #17:  You have no idea how disturbing it is to hear sabre articulating
(sort of) the same arguments I'm heard from my mother countless times. 
janc
response 21 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:18 UTC 2003

Re #17:  I guess you do read what you right.  My next theory is that you
 don't get out of your barrel much.
spock
response 22 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:18 UTC 2003

You know IM a college educated man but I cant follow the opening piece.
sabre
response 23 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:20 UTC 2003

<troll mode off>
What? Come on man. By that reasoning you could justify killing some of the
6 billion people who have been born. After all they are easily replaced.
Lets start with the retarded and the handicapped. Then we can kill off people
when there are too old to be useful anymore. And THEN..we can kill everyone
who disagrees with us.   Get real. That "fetus" is a human being.
<troll mode on>
ric
response 24 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:22 UTC 2003

No it's not.
janc
response 25 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:27 UTC 2003

Re 23: No, that reasoning would not support killing the handicapped, at
least not the vast majority.  If a person was a complete vegetable, so
that they had no functioning self-awareness, no consious hopes or desires,
and if there were no loving friends or family who wanted the person alive,
then that reasoning would permit the person to be killed.  Why not?
sabre
response 26 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:40 UTC 2003

Because of principle. 
Out of respect for human life.
Because to do so puts you in a position to do something you don't have an
ETHICAL right to do
Last but not least....because God loves them all and to kill them will anger
him
flem
response 27 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:51 UTC 2003

Respect for human life is so... so...  *liberal*.  :)
edina
response 28 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:54 UTC 2003

When the IRS starts supporting "you're a full-fledged human at conception",
then I'm on board.
rcurl
response 29 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 20:58 UTC 2003

Start taxing them, too.
orinoco
response 30 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 21:07 UTC 2003

Most of 'em don't have much of an income.  Don't own property either, unless
you count the space they take up in the womb, and there isn't usually any
resale value on that.
mary
response 31 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 21:39 UTC 2003

I'm getting such a kick out of visualizing sabre screaming, "My God is
fucking mad at all you fucking bitches for spreading your legs for every
fucking dick that wants in.  You'd be better off, slut, to use the fucking
corn God grew for you."

This show is too much of a train wreck to be real.  But as train
wrecks go it's pretty funny.
jmsaul
response 32 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 22:41 UTC 2003

What sabre's actually doing is sitting at home, giggling, and saying "I knew
those predictable dumbasses wouldn't be able to resist this one."
twenex
response 33 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 22:48 UTC 2003

A true "universal respect for human life" requires denial of the death
penalty, murder, war, and the means to cause, by action or inaction, the deaht
of e.g. a bum.

Anything else is a qualification. Foetuses are not self-aware, therefore imho,
abortion for god reason like in the case of a child who would be unloved
because of a rape incident, or a pregnancy whose termination would result in
the death of the mother, is admissable if ver carefully considered and agreed
upon by the mother, the father (when applicable, i.e. when the father is able
and willing to ACT as a father) and MD/surgeon.
md
response 34 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 23:13 UTC 2003

Has anyone considered that sabre might be the sort of person who 
invests so much ego in everything he says that the effort of defending 
#0, which he didn't even believe when he wrote it, could actually turn 
him into the rabid anti-abortion type he's impersonating?  Psychology 
101.  I mean, everyone knows what Rane et al. are gonna say anyway, so 
why not say "Why, sir, that is most justly observed," or something?  
(Generic "he" there.  sabre could be Mary Remmers for all I know.)
dcat
response 35 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 23:45 UTC 2003

Mostly I think 'sabre' is a misnomer.  'epee' might be more accurate.
mary
response 36 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:35 UTC 2003

I miss mulberry.
jaklumen
response 37 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 04:28 UTC 2003

resp:19 whoa, he's making *you* do the dance?  Well, I responded a 
while back to other stuff (maybe not as long) so I guess it was coming.

resp:31 an interesting and witty way of putting it.  Sometimes, it 
seems more like a rotten apple pie fight.

resp:32 Why yes!  True, Joe.  Wait for my other brother, sabre.  So 
juicy, plump, BIG!  *clop clop clop*
sj2
response 38 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:24 UTC 2003

Duh!! People still post on this guy's threads???
rcurl
response 39 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:38 UTC 2003

If every thread that deserved being ignored were ignored, it would be
rather silent around here.
janc
response 40 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:41 UTC 2003

Re #32:  If all else fails, I'm sure that's what he'd prefer to have us think
he is up to.  I have no idea who sabre is and what he is thinking.  I respond
to please myself, serving my own agenda.  If that happens to also serve
someone else's agenda, then I have no problem with that.

Re #26:  I do have a problem with that handy, dandy, pocket-sized God you got
there.  That's a funny kind of God that you can just whip out of your pocket
any time you need him to back up your opinions.

Now, me, I happen to believe in God too, but I believe that God is at least
as large and complex as the universe, and at least as difficult to understand.
It's entirely beyond me to attempt to state with any certainty what God thinks
about any particular issue.  If God has opinions, I expect they are all way
too large to fit into my brain.  Maybe after I've completely understood the
entire universe, I'll be ready to start making semi-confident guesses about
what God thinks.

I don't believe you are enough smarter than me to know what God thinks.  I
don't think that thing you are calling "God" is God.  I think that thing is
a little sock puppet you've stuck your hand into so it will conveniently
back you up on any opinion you might care to offer.  Forgive me if I am
not impressed by either the strength of your argument or the depth of your
faith.
sabre
response 41 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 11:14 UTC 2003

RE:#5 
Here's an example tod
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/lacicharge1.html

RE#31
You're funny....you made me laugh
 
RE# 32...You read me like a book

RE# 35  dcat?  what a pussy ass name. I saw your photo on the web.
A little faggot like you shouldn't say a word about anyone else's handle

#38 You stupid moron. Do you realise how fucking stupid you sound when you
do the very thing you're posting against? You are a fucking post whore.
  
#34 md..You'll never know.

#39. That is so true. every bbs needs a few trolls to stir things up.
You lamers are so *yawn* BORING.
 
#33  Don't get your panties in a wad twenex.
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