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happyboy
response 17 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 18:03 UTC 2003

sad.
tod
response 18 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 20:05 UTC 2003

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michaela
response 19 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 20:42 UTC 2003

Pretty much.
tod
response 20 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 20:49 UTC 2003

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jaklumen
response 21 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 01:25 UTC 2003

resp:15 You'll have to enlighten me: what's bad about wenches in 
bodices again?
jep
response 22 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 01:29 UTC 2003

Members of the U-M Credit Union can get adult tickets for $12 (regular 
price $15.95) and children's tickets (age 5-12) for $5 (regular price 
is $6.95).

Farmer Jack sells tickets for $13.95 adult, $5.50 child if you're not 
a member of UMCU.

I went once, several years, ago, and every year I intend to go back.  
I haven't done it yet, but maybe this is the year.  The WWW site says 
they have rides.  Anyone know how much they charge, and how many types 
of rides they have?

I'd love to see jousting, if it's not too frightening for younger 
kids.  Do they have it continuously?  I couldn't find any schedules on-
line at http://www.michrenfest.com.
michaela
response 23 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 05:18 UTC 2003

Jep - your kids would probably love the jousting. It doesn't involve fake
blood or anything like that, and I'm sure they'd get a kick out of the horses
and pageantry.

When they aren't jousting, they do "milder" things like hitting fruit off a
post while riding their horse... things like that.  Just hang out in the Dust
Bowl/Mud Pit (depends on weather) and check the posted schedule, if they have
one. I usually just ask around.

Jaklumen - the one I'm referring to is that ridiculous bodice that modern
girls have decided is both historical and sexy. It's neither. It's the one
that allows their breasts to HANG over the top (as if that's comfortable).
A proper bodice covers the breasts and supports them. It's the original bra.
(I actually prefer those as they are a hell of a lot more comfortable than
an underwire).

Horrid costumes and annoying accents aside, I'm looking forward to spending
a day with the boy and our friends. I've been promised a new Claddagh ring
since mine had to be cut off at the hospital the other night. :(
scott
response 24 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 13:22 UTC 2003

I find the wench bodices to be perfectly acceptable.  An important part of
the people-watching, even.  8P~~~

Jep:  I don't recall if the rides are free or not - I think probably they're
a dollar or something like that.  There's a big "kids kingdom" in the middle
with petting zoo, shows (well, shows are all over the place and all free) and
other stuff.  The jousting is sort of a big pro-wrestling type thing, with
a good guy, a bad guy, and a ringside announcer.  No blood, not scary. 
Crowded and in the sun, though.
cmcgee
response 25 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 16:29 UTC 2003

IIRC the rides were simple ones that at least were imaginable for the time
period:  trying to climb a steeply angled tree trunk, swinging around in a
merry-go-round fashion, etc.  No modern "amusement park" rides.
tod
response 26 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 18:42 UTC 2003

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jep
response 27 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 01:51 UTC 2003

I remember a big wood-and-rope swing the one time I went.  I know my 7 
year old would love that.

The jousting -- which I've never seen -- sounds fine for John.

Now, to find a time when we can actually go...
tod
response 28 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 03:35 UTC 2003

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jaklumen
response 29 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 07:34 UTC 2003

resp:23  I can just imagine, really.  I mean, really.  I'm not a Ren 
Faire geek, but I am a Camarilla member, and these things have gone 
around the LARP pike, too.  Brrrr, bad memories of cleavage getting 
costume nominations for XP for months...and alas, resp:24 proves how 
it just entrances the men...

As for the Claddagh ring, cool.  Julie used to have one-- forgot 
precisely what happened to it... something about it going back to the 
ex.  So does it face in or out?
michaela
response 30 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 08:03 UTC 2003

When used as the Irish engagement/wedding band, it is as such:

Engaged - crown points toward fingernail
Married - ring is turned so crown points at wrist - this is because it now
looks like the hands are giving the heart to someone

Most people in America simply wear them to show that they're Irish, or they
like the story of the ring, or their lover bought it for them. The ring
should, traditionally, be a gift and not bought for oneself.  In the American
tradition, the rules vary, but most people have the crown toward the
fingernail if they're single and pointing toward the wrist if they're with
someone.
happyboy
response 31 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 17:50 UTC 2003

i wonder if most *irish* thinks it's a bunch of wanna-be-ism.
tod
response 32 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 19:10 UTC 2003

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michaela
response 33 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 20:31 UTC 2003

Re #31 - probably
tod
response 34 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 20:37 UTC 2003

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tpryan
response 35 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 22:13 UTC 2003

        Last time I went, I got a bunch of SBA dollar coins to use as
tips.  Surprised a few performers.
happyboy
response 36 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 01:27 UTC 2003

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jaklumen
response 37 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 01:48 UTC 2003

resp:30  Thanks for the further clarifications-- I was familiar with 
the common American custom.  Now, how do/did you wear it and what 
interpretation do/did you use, if any?  Just curious...
michaela
response 38 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 08:49 UTC 2003

Re #37 - it was given to me by my (Irish) mother for Christmas 1993. I wore
it as a "single" person would and then turned it when Ken and I got a bit more
serious. Ken's hinting at getting me another one, but I'd really rather not
unless it's an engagement ring (and it's waaaaaaaay too early for that).
lynne
response 39 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 16:01 UTC 2003

Wench bodices make me cringe because they look so damn uncomfortable as
typically worn at these things.  Sarah's absolutely right.
clees
response 40 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 15:22 UTC 2003

Still,
everybody going to a RenFest (and enjoying it), no matter which way 
seem to enjoy to dress up.
Now, there is the difference between those who go for the authenticity 
ans those who are in for the fun and kick of dressing up.
See, last year I could not resist the opportunity to join scott to last 
year's Renfest, and I am from the Netherlands, even.
He honored me by letting me wear one of his hadmade chainmail shirts. 
Way cool!
But heavy.
I certainly enjoy it, and like scott am in for the game of watching and 
being watched. That's why I wore my (not so matching, but genuine) kilt.
Have fun, scott.

scott
response 41 of 65: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 16:12 UTC 2003

Looks like I'll be going with a non-Grex group on Saturday, 9/20.  I can't
imagine Grexers not being welcome, if any show up.
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