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Grex > Helpers > #149: Grex System Problems - Spring 2006 | |
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rcurl
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response 169 of 333:
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May 20 23:18 UTC 2006 |
I recently had a problem that I referred to staff, and received the following
automated reply:
"This is an automatic reply to tell you that your message to the Grex
staff was received. Mail to the (all-volunteer) staff is usually answered
only on the weekends, so it may be up to a week before you receive a reply
to your message. But your message *is* in the queue and the staff does
intend to answer it. If you sent a question about Grex, you may be able
to find the answer faster by looking in the list of Frequently Asked
Questions about Grex at http://www.cyberspace.org/faq.html
"If you asked to have your password reset, please make sure you included
the user ID of your Grex account. If you didn't send your user ID, please
send another message to staff to tell us your user ID. Do not send your
password.
"Note that Grex will send out this message only once every 30 days, even
if you send mail to staff more often than that.
"-The Grex Staff"
I certainly understand the problems of volunteer organizations, and
appreciate efforts of the volunteer Grex staff. But I do feel it would
benefit Grex if inquiries to staff can be addressed more rapidly. We all
get frustrated with difficulties in obtaining (or not obtaining, or great
delays in obtaining) responses from companies. It would be nice if Grex
was more friendly toward users. Perhaps the responsibility for responding
within 24 hours could be passed among staff members, say for a week each?
Or perhaps mail to staff to go to a non-staff volunteer, who would assist
if possible, or pass the inquiry or problems on to a staff member that is
"on call" at that time?
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gaynigger
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response 170 of 333:
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May 21 02:48 UTC 2006 |
this board is impossible to trlol
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camwhorejax
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response 171 of 333:
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May 22 07:54 UTC 2006 |
hi it's me i'm a camwhore
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keesan
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response 172 of 333:
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May 22 14:26 UTC 2006 |
The latest trashing was 3:54 a. m.. I will be reading agora just before
bedtime and doing a fixseen in the morning.
Would it help to turn off newuser for a while? Or only allow new users to
read most items and post in just one item until they prove that they can
behave themselves? (And somehow limit new users to 3 postings a day).
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keesan
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response 173 of 333:
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May 22 14:55 UTC 2006 |
Can the r n (read new) command somehow be expanded to read things since a
certain time of day? I just tried r n since 4:00 and it did not work.
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rcurl
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response 174 of 333:
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May 22 16:16 UTC 2006 |
Re #169: the weekend has come and gone since I wrote to staff on 18 May, but
I have had no response.
The problem I am trying to solve is that I cannot ftp to the account of a
non-profit Grex member whose account I manage, although I can ssh to it.
I've also written to the Grex treasurer, who I presume manages accounts,
but have not had a response. Any suggestions on how I can solve this
problem?
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mcnally
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response 175 of 333:
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May 22 16:26 UTC 2006 |
re #174: do you get an error message of some sort? are you trying to
connect from a browser or a command-line ftp program? Can you ftp to
your own account using the same mechanism as you are trying to use for
the mnac account?
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rcurl
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response 176 of 333:
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May 22 16:36 UTC 2006 |
No error message - just an immediate disconnect after entering the pw. I
am using a command line ftp (via Mac Terminal). I can ftp to my own
account with exactly the same procedure.
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cross
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response 177 of 333:
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May 22 16:51 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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naftee
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response 178 of 333:
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May 22 17:34 UTC 2006 |
i am a not for profit GreXer
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ball
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response 179 of 333:
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May 23 01:32 UTC 2006 |
Re #174: Have you tried sftp?
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rcurl
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response 180 of 333:
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May 23 01:50 UTC 2006 |
That's what I use. SFTP-2, in fact. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I
*think* the problem might be because the membership isn't current, or there
is a mistake in the membership records; or is a current membership not
required to ftp TO an account?
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mcnally
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response 181 of 333:
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May 23 04:36 UTC 2006 |
membership isn't required to ftp to an account, AND I checked the
groups that that account belongs to: it appears to belong to the
member and internet groups..
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ball
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response 182 of 333:
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May 23 15:47 UTC 2006 |
Re #180: perhaps it's an SSH/SFTP version problem.
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rcurl
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response 183 of 333:
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May 23 17:09 UTC 2006 |
Thanks for checking that, Mike.
I just went through connecting to both rcurl and mnac via SSH-2, using
Terminal's (Mac OSX) Connect-to-Server directly, and both were fine. I
then tried the same thing via SFTP-2, and could only connect to rcurl. The
error message I got trying the connection to mnac was
Connecting to cyberspace.org...
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Connection closed
[Process exited - exit code 255]
I even wrote out the mnac pw and copied it to paste in, to make sure I
wasn't entering it incorrectly. Earlier I had changed the pw, and the new
pw is OK to mnac for SSH while SFTP didn't work.
Does the above error message provide any clue?
Mike, are you staff, and able to change the pw and try it? (Just let me
know what you change it to..... 8^}) If you aren't, could a staff member
with root please check this out?
(The Staff list at the Grex website is from Jan '04.)
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mcnally
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response 184 of 333:
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May 23 17:28 UTC 2006 |
I'll give it a try..
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mcnally
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response 185 of 333:
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May 23 17:56 UTC 2006 |
Here's what I tried:
1) su'ed to root, then stashed a copy of the mnac
account's password entry so I could restore it
to normal afterward, then changed the password
to a known string. sftp'ed to grex and tried
to log in but saw the same sort of behavior
Rane is reporting:
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mnac@cyberspace.org
Connecting to cyberspace.org...
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Connection closed
To make sure it wasn't just an authentication
error I logged in using the wrong password
intentionally and got prompted to enter the
password again, so if Rane is not seeing such
a message he must be using the right password.
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mnac@cyberspace.org
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Permission denied, please try again.
Finally, to verify that sftp is working properly
between the two machines, I sftp'ed in as myself
without any problem.
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mcnally@cyberspace.org
mcnally@cyberspace.org's password:
sftp> quit
One thing that I thought was quite odd is that while
editing the account as root, the password field in the
/etc/passwd entry for mnac is a great deal longer than
for any of the other accounts around it in the password
file. E.g.:
iggy:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8442:1002::0:0:igor von
heiniken:/a/i/g/iggy:/usr/local/bin/bbssh
marcvh:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8451:1002::0:0:Marc
VanHeyningen:/c/m/a/marcvh:/bin/bash
fitz:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8880:1002::0:0:Scotch! Cigars!
Coffee!:/c/f/i/fitz:/bin/csh
gull:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:9062:1002::0:0:David
Brodbeck,Ann Arbor MI:/a/g/u/gull:/bin/bash
mnac:yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:92
80:1002::0:0:MNAC:/a/m/n/mnac:/bin/tcsh
The other nearby entries in the password file have
encrypted password hashes that are 28 characters long.
The mnac account has a 60-character long password hash.
Can anyone familiar with the password scheme we're using
tell me why that should be the case and/or whether it has
any bearing on the matter at hand?
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rcurl
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response 186 of 333:
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May 23 18:23 UTC 2006 |
"if Rane is not seeing such a message he must be using the right password"
Yes, I was using the right pw, by this test.
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gayniggerassociation
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response 187 of 333:
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May 23 20:50 UTC 2006 |
GNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA
GNAA GNAA
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rcurl
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response 188 of 333:
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May 23 21:54 UTC 2006 |
Why can't these jerks be stopped?
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nharmon
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response 189 of 333:
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May 23 21:58 UTC 2006 |
They can, but the methods of doing so are not very comfortable.
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scholar
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response 190 of 333:
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May 23 22:07 UTC 2006 |
re. 188: why don't you respond to every post they make with 'jerk'? it's
always worked in the past, hasn't it?
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rcurl
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response 191 of 333:
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May 23 22:25 UTC 2006 |
Yes, it has. However I don't think these new jerks read the conferences.
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scholar
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response 192 of 333:
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May 23 23:33 UTC 2006 |
you'll never know until you try.
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rcurl
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response 193 of 333:
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May 24 01:57 UTC 2006 |
Re #185: that is *really* weird: the wrong pw gets a message to try again,
but the right pw disconnects! Can what happens when using the right pw be
logged?
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