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rcurl
response 169 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:56 UTC 2006

C-14 dating of the shroud of Turin give dates of AD 1260 - 1390. 
http://www.shroud.com/nature.htm

It is also important to realize that most people of that era were wrapped for
burial. Evidence for wounds can have many explanations. 
tod
response 170 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:57 UTC 2006

Its also possible that some dirty Italian used it after his semi annual bath.
happyboy
response 171 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:12 UTC 2006

"Luigi!! NOT MY FINE LINEN!!!"
tod
response 172 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:28 UTC 2006

Ass Crack of Turin
richard
response 173 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:34 UTC 2006

re #167 The Shroud of Turin has been exposed as almost certainly a hoax.  They
have confirmed methods for how it was likely done in the time it was done.
richard
response 174 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:38 UTC 2006

the commonly accepted depictions of Jesus portray him as a white caucasian,
like your average european.  wonder why.  In fact studies indicate that Jesus,
if he existed, was likely not caucasian but of a darker skinned complexion
common to semitics of that era.
khamsun
response 175 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:39 UTC 2006

well everybody will agree Jesus was a semitic guy, probably looking like
one of the guys seen in palestinian crowds.At that time Mohammed wasn't
born, and the israelis that lives at the place now didn't.
These days he'd be arrested by most cops...and rabbis would probably
still try to get rid of him ...
think about it next time Dubya Imperator says on TV "God save my money" 
:-)
nharmon
response 176 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:14 UTC 2006

<nharmon cues up Everlast - Black Jesus>
tod
response 177 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:15 UTC 2006

I'm fairly certain Moses was similar to Sherman Hemsley and they both sang
"Movin on Up"
albaugh
response 178 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 22:20 UTC 2006

richard, learn to read and comprehend English.  These are your words:

> the Christian world, where the image of Jesus on the
> cross is a key of the faith.

The image is *NOT* a "key of the faith".  Maybe it is a good "marketing tool",
but that's not what you wrote, is it?
happyboy
response 179 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 22:26 UTC 2006

only when it's on a keychain.

apparently richard doesnt know much about quakers
j. witnesses, etc

richard...do you think all xtians are of the charismatic
catholic or promise keeper/ dobson dominionist retard school?

you should get out of your apt building more
richard
response 180 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 22:33 UTC 2006

re #178 if it is a good marketing tool, a great marketing tool, it is in MY
OPINION, a key to the faith.  Albaugh I am entitled to that opinion and you
are entitled to disagree.
happyboy
response 181 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 22:35 UTC 2006

when was the last time you say a quaker
waving aroung a crucifix, dickiebird?
rcurl
response 182 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 03:08 UTC 2006

Re #173: the web discussions appear to assume that *either* the SoT is the 
burial cloth of JC or a medieval hoax. However those are not the only 
alternatives. It could be a medieval burial cloth for a medieval person. 
Can you cite a site for absolutely certain evidence that the shroud was 
prepared with the purpose of being a hoax in medieval times rather than as 
being simply the shroud for a human body from that period? Certainly even 
if it is nothing more than the latter it could have subsequently be 
*claimed* to be the shroud for JC. Making such a claim would then be a 
hoax, but not the shroud itself.
bru
response 183 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 03:49 UTC 2006

actually, the latest report says the radio carbon dating test was flawed with
detrius from the middle ages caused by the fire that singed the corners with
silver.
rcurl
response 184 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 06:11 UTC 2006

Well, that is problematic. There are huge controversies over all aspects
of this. Would  you please cite a site giving well-documented and agreed upon
evidence for that alleged flaw in the C14 dating? There are sites that
ridicule the fire story. 
happyboy
response 185 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 09:55 UTC 2006

oh just let him believe.
tod
response 186 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:51 UTC 2006

They traced the mitochondria (maternal lineage) DNA back to Ireland.  Its
quite possible that its a Sean Penn's bath towel.
deadpunk
response 187 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 08:31 UTC 2006

"God" deals in faith, right? So maybe, "he" decided 
"I'll screw the doubting thomases" - "he" rigged 
the results of the carbon dating, and anyone who 
puts belief in scientific results over simple faith 
- going down! Hey, maybe I'm wrong... and maybe 
doubting the wisdom of my words will get you on the 
express de-elevator too.
happyboy
response 188 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:29 UTC 2006

so what you are saying is that god is a sadist!

why do you hate the baby jesus, blast-femurrr?!
albaugh
response 189 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:36 UTC 2006

yes richard you are entitled to be wrong.
gull
response 190 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 02:02 UTC 2006

Re resp:187: See, that's one of the problems I have with Creationism. 
To believe it, you have to believe that God did stuff specifically to 
mislead us and cause some of us to end up in Hell. It's hard to square 
that with a loving God. 
 
I gave up on religion when I realized that there were only two ways to 
explain how things happened in the world: Either God doesn't exist, or 
God is a mean, arbitrary bastard. In the first case there's nothing to 
believe in, and in the second case He doesn't seem like someone I'd 
want to worship. 
kingjon
response 191 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 02:11 UTC 2006

I don't see it that way at all. 

keesan
response 192 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 03:16 UTC 2006

Jon, why do you believe in God?
nharmon
response 193 of 432: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 03:22 UTC 2006

Because believing in God is easier than believing that moral, reasoning,
thinking people came from unthinking dead stuff.
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