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keesan
response 169 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:04 UTC 2003

Keesan is definitely proud of mynxcat's refrigerator.
mynxcat
response 170 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:37 UTC 2003

 :) keesan.

I second edina's comment on the elliptical and asses. I can actually 
feel those muscles get a workout.

I think the elliptical does get your heart-rate up, but with little 
impact on your legs, or much less impact. Maybe that's why it seems 
like the effort isn't as much? I definitely sweat a lot, and I feel 
the muscles in my ass, and thighs getting worked, but unlike the cross-
trainer and the treadmill, there's little impact to the calves, which 
is good, because a lot of times I know I can do a lot more, but my 
calf-muscles feel like they're going to drop. Without having to worry 
about that, I can go for an hour on the elliptical, work up a good 
sweat, and not lose feeling in my lower-legs.
mynxcat
response 171 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:42 UTC 2003

Hmmm, I was looking at the internet, and I read that "Just a word of 
warning regarding cardio equipment and calories burnt. Many cardio 
machines if not all don't ask for your weight and tell you that you're 
burning X number of calories. The number displayed is for a person of 
average weight [Usually average is 150 pounds]. For many people the 
number of calories is overstated. " The elliptical machine I use asks 
for my weight. And even if it didn't, 150 lbs is pretty close to what 
I weigh

mynxcat
response 172 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:50 UTC 2003

And from 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/25/earlyshow/contributors/minnal
essig/main530806.shtml

Here are some activities and the number of calories they burn (for a 
150-pound person, on average): 
Stationary bike (at moderate level): 504 calories/hour 
Elliptical trainer (general): 648 calories/hour 
Stairmaster: 432 calories/hour 
Running (11.5 min/mile): 648 calories/hour 
Walking (17 min/mile): 288 calories/hour

which shows that the elliptical trainer numbers are pretty close to 
accurate. Yay!

The article also explains why interval training burns a lot of 
calories. The fat burning program on the elliptical is pretty close to 
the interval-training program, so that would explain the large number 
of calories lost.

keesan
response 173 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 18:38 UTC 2003

I had better be careful not to overexercise and lose weight ;)
Do you know of any exercises for making the buttocks larger so that it will
be possible to sit on a less padded chair?  Walking has not helped much.
slynne
response 174 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 19:54 UTC 2003

Keesan probably would also like the pumpkin pie I baked yesterday. I 
accidently used a can of regular pumpkin instead of the pumpkin pie 
filling. In other words, no sugar. It wasnt too bad except for that 
first bite when I was expecting something a little more sweet. 
tod
response 175 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 20:13 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 176 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 20:39 UTC 2003

Heh
lynne
response 177 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 23:59 UTC 2003

Hmm.  Often, the elliptical I used at the MIT gym would tell me I was
burning about 600 calories in about 40 min.  It was definitely a good
workout, but the bike always was much more effort and told me I'd burned
fewer calories.  The calf-muscle explanation sounds good to me.  The
elliptical definitely works more of your body.
I think hockey and swimming are known for building up butt size.  I don't
swim very often; I can say for sure that hockey works the butt muscles
pretty thoroughly.  They're essential for standing your ground against
an opponent who is trying to knock you over, or who you are trying to 
knock over.  Anyway, while my ass is not small, I think I'd describe it
as solid rather than large.  More exercise is not the way to get rid of
that.
I was screwing around with BMI calculators online today, and was annoyed
just a bit to find that I'd crossed the line into the "overweight"
classification.  Meanwhile, the body fat calculators told me I'm about
23% fat, which is well within the healthy range.  It's really gross to
think about carrying 30+ pounds of fat around, though.  Maybe I'll go
exacerbate my butt at hockey practice tomorrow morning.
keesan
response 178 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 01:39 UTC 2003

You can be 'overweight' by having lots of muscle.  
scott
response 179 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 02:20 UTC 2003

I think I'd like elliptical trainers a lot more if they weren't designed for
people under 6 feet tall.  I feel sort of cramped on them, anyway.  Now that
winter is coming it'll be time to start hitting the stairclimbers again...
mynxcat
response 180 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 03:13 UTC 2003

The ideal fat percentage for women is in the 22-25% range, for men its much
less. Makes sense, seeing that women have more fat in their breasts and
overall need more fat on their bodies than men do.

600 calories in 40 minutes on the elliptical is believable if you were going
at a steep incline or really fast. I did 580 calories in 55 minutes this
morning. Some 660 calories in an hour yesterday. 

Keesan is right, when you start buiilding muscle, you tend to put on more
weight. Muscle weighs more than fat. 
jaklumen
response 181 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 03:43 UTC 2003

BMI is terrible, I'd suppose, for fit people.
mynxcat
response 182 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 12:21 UTC 2003

There's fit, and there's the body-building types with lots of big muscles.
If you're aiming for fit, I'd imagine the BMI is a good indication. If you're
aiming to go the Arnie Scwarzie way, look more at fat percentage.

I've lost enough weight to put me on the borderline of healthy BMI
keesan
response 183 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 15:03 UTC 2003

Anyone want to calculate my body fat percentage?  I am at least 101 pounds
now.  Used to be 19%, I think (at 115 or so pounds).  I have gained nearly
10 pounds but it must all have gone to muscle as I can't find any fat, but
I also don't see any increase in muscle size (not that they don't work better
now).  
lynne
response 184 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 18:29 UTC 2003

Yup, BMI is pretty damn bad as a measure for healthy weights.  One of my
teammates is *extremely* fit--in an athletic but not body-builderly way.
One of the very few women I know with a sixpack.  Anyway, her BMI puts
her into the obese category.  That's always really entertained me.
I'm quite aware that muscle weighs more than fat, which is why I went for
the body fat calculation.  I'm sure the measurements-based numbers aren't
completely accurate either, but as a measure of weight-related health
they're much more believable than BMI.
keesan
response 185 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 18:46 UTC 2003

Jim is also borderline overweight due to muscle and I don't see any fat on
him.  He has big bones (and duck feet).  32 waist, 6' - is this overweight?
tod
response 186 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 23:21 UTC 2003

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lynne
response 187 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 23:39 UTC 2003

Did it matter whether you were male or female?
gelinas
response 188 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 02:21 UTC 2003

What is "BMI"?  

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/ceremonies/sentinelsotu.html doesn't
mention sex, but the height requirement is now 5'10" to 6'4".
munkey
response 189 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 04:22 UTC 2003

BMI - the ratio between weight and height; a mathematical formula that
correlates with body fat.

Obese is considered having a BMI of 30 and above. Overweight is having a BMI
of 25 to 29.9.

That was on my test last week! I knew it!
mynxcat
response 190 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 14:29 UTC 2003

6' and 32" waist sounds reasonable. How much does Jim weigh?

I was bad - had cajun from the fast food place at teh mall last night. And
I didn't workout either :(
janc
response 191 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 14:39 UTC 2003

Every time I see the item title "mynxcat wants to be svelte" I wonder of the
Grex login "svelte" is available.
lynne
response 192 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 16:13 UTC 2003

re 191:  grin :)
BMI stands for "body mass index".  I believe it's the official government
method of classifying people as overweight, obese, etc, and therefore sucks
ass.
re 189:  I believe you that you had to learn that.  But I don't believe you
that there's a good mathematical correlation with body fat.  :)
mynxcat
response 193 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 17:03 UTC 2003

Re 191. all you have to do is use "finger", but I'm sure you knew that ;).
'svelte' is available.
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