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mziemba
response 163 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 05:54 UTC 2006

OK. Now I'm using a PC with Microsoft Windows XP and HyperTerminal.  Same
problem.  Despite using the menu system to change the terminal type to VT100,
which is what I'm emulating on my end, Grex registers this and then later
tells me that my terminal type "dialup" is unknown, and therefore won't allow
me to access mail via pine.  What's going on?
gull
response 164 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 06:42 UTC 2006

Re resp:160: AOL's block list is notoriously overzealous and hard to
stay off of.  AOL's email service shouldn't be considered reliable by
anyone.
keesan
response 165 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:28 UTC 2006

But unfortunately there are still dummies who use AOL, and I work for one of
them and Jim's brother is another.  
twenex
response 166 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:36 UTC 2006

Wow. How unpolitically-correct of you. You're right though.
keesan
response 167 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:48 UTC 2006

Haven't you see any of the AOL for DUMMIES books?  Yellow and black cover.
I have also see Weddings for Dummies, or maybe it was for Idiots.
jadecat
response 168 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:51 UTC 2006

There are many, MANY "... For Dummies!" books out there.
twenex
response 169 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:54 UTC 2006

Ah, maybe I took your comment out of context. I assumed you were really
disparaging dummies.

I prefer the "Idiot's Guides" myself. Funnily enough I thought the "for
Dummies" books were more patronizing.
keesan
response 170 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:56 UTC 2006

Idiot implies you are incapable of learning, dummy that you are uninformed
but not unintelligent.
cross
response 171 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:45 UTC 2006

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marcvh
response 172 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:58 UTC 2006

Both dummy and idiot imply someone who is unintelligent, although idiot
is a bit more extreme and used to imply a profound mental disability.
The word for someone who is uninformed is "ignoramus."
rcurl
response 173 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 17:38 UTC 2006

People will admit to being a, say, Unix Dummy, more readily than being a Unix
Ignoramus. The latter, though, is better for identifying someone else. 
twenex
response 174 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 15:47 UTC 2006

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twenex
response 175 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 15:48 UTC 2006

Grex is fixed. Hail Ming! er, STeve!
tod
response 176 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 17:36 UTC 2006

Thanks for the update on the system downtime!
crimson
response 177 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 02:16 UTC 2006

From WordNet: 
Dummy: 1. a person who does not talk
2. an ignorant or foolish person

Idiot: 1. a person of subnormal intelligence

Ignoramus: 1. an ignorant person

Still, I'd rather be called a "dummy" -- and "wilfully ignorant" is as sharp an
insult as you can give (if you want to do so) in my book.
scholar
response 178 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 03:05 UTC 2006

/me humps Katrisa's leg
rcurl
response 179 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 19:14 UTC 2006

I have abandoned my own spam filters in PINE on CAEN and am now using 
their server-side Brightmail filter. I don't know the details of its 
operation, but I gather CAEN subscribes to a spam list - IP addresses I 
think - and applies them to filter. It works very well. There is less than 
1% "good" e-mail sent to the Junk folder, and similarly the junk in the 
good mail is very small. I think I still need to scan the junk folder for 
anything good, but may decide that it isn't worth the effort, and just 
accept the loss of a few good items.

Can Grex use Brightmail?
gull
response 180 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 21:43 UTC 2006

I think Brightmail is a subscription service.
marcvh
response 181 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 23:10 UTC 2006

Apropos of Denise's earlier comments, the "everything is new" happened 
to me, and it appears that the reason is because my participation file
is 0 bytes long.  Apparently something went wrong when I exited from
the conference the previous time.  It doesn't look like the disc was full
or any other obvious problem like that.
keesan
response 182 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 02:00 UTC 2006

AOL is still blocking grex mail, apparently using some att blacklist.
Jim read that ATT is going to sell advertising space to advertisers, in that
it will agree not to block spam from them to its members, for a fee.
I guess real mails from grex would distract users from the paid messages.
tsty
response 183 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 16:15 UTC 2006

any progress on getting back email from that 8mm tape, please?i think
many of us (many who have said so) have irretrievable addreses from
a-way-far-back that are on that last (eons ago ???) backup.
  
cross
response 184 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:08 UTC 2006

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tsty
response 185 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:45 UTC 2006

is this considered a problem these dyas?
  
grex% w
 8:44PM  up 7 days, 18:52, 12 users, load averages: 0.59, 0.55, 0.55
USER    TTY FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
roger2   p0 217.16.69.100     8:13PM     7 lynx
tsty     p1 c-68-41-26-134.h  8:42PM     0 w
grogg    p2 c-24-118-175-175  8:43PM     0 (pine)
denleon  p3 paradigm.cypress  8:34PM     0 lynx
nefkin   p7 62.33.88.166      8:35PM     7 -sh
kingjon  p9 resnet66-220.res  8:37PM     0 -bash
schahr01 pc cpe-24-90-108-22  7:38PM     0 -ksh
triludaa pe 4.36.144.2        7:25PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_ nohelp nofasts
chaoswwc ft 75-178-175-62.li  8:35PM     0 NOOP
chaoswwc ft 75-178-175-62.li  8:40PM     0 STOR /c/c/h/chaoswwc/Programas Windo
chaoswwc ft 75-178-175-62.li  8:41PM     0 STOR /c/c/h/chaoswwc/Programas Windo
chaoswwc ft 75-178-175-62.li  8:42PM     0 STOR /c/c/h/chaoswwc/Programas Windo
grex% who
roger2   ttyp0    Feb 11 20:13   (217.16.69.100)
tsty     ttyp1    Feb 11 20:42   (c-68-41-26-134.hsd1.mi.comcast.n)
denleon  ttyp3    Feb 11 20:34   (paradigm.cypress.com)
nefkin   ttyp7    Feb 11 20:35   (62.33.88.166)
kingjon  ttyp9    Feb 11 20:37   (resnet66-220.resnet.calvin.edu)
schahr01 ttypc    Feb 11 19:38   (cpe-24-90-108-228.nyc.res.rr.com)
triludaa ttype    Feb 11 19:25   (4.36.144.2)
chaoswwc ftp23920 Feb 11 20:35   (75-178-175-62.libre.auna.net)
chaoswwc ftp18949 Feb 11 20:40   (75-178-175-62.libre.auna.net)
chaoswwc ftp16192 Feb 11 20:41   (75-178-175-62.libre.auna.net)
chaoswwc ftp17712 Feb 11 20:42   (75-178-175-62.libre.auna.net)


mcnally
response 186 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 02:52 UTC 2006

 That depends what they're storing..
 I'll have a look.
malymi
response 187 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 08:50 UTC 2006

my slightly dated memory is that per mailbox brightmail is not too
expensive (50c or less), but the minimum commitment (1000 mailboxes) i
think is far beyond what grex can afford.

but more profoundly it integrates into the existing mail infrastructure;
neither openbsd or exim are supported.

that symantec now owns it i fear signals the beginning of the end of its
quality.
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