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orinoco
response 160 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 16:07 UTC 2000

In a baroque dance suite (in which many of the forms are borrowed from folk
dance), a 3/2 piece would probably be a pavanne.  If I remember right.  Ask
me again in a few weeks once I've started music history.
albaugh
response 161 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 20:51 UTC 2000

Just think "fast reel with instruments flailing wildly", with 3 beats in a
measure.  :-)
darkwolf
response 162 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 23:09 UTC 2000

music history uggh... 
krj
response 163 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 03:29 UTC 2000

 ((hi darkwolf, welcome to Grex!))
darkwolf
response 164 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 04:51 UTC 2000

Actually I've been on Grex for a while never really spoke up till I left ann
arbor. Grex has become my Ann Arbor fix as it may bee
tpryan
response 165 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 16:11 UTC 2000

        The Michigan Ren Fest has 'The Emerald Isle' as their theme for
this weekend (9/16,17/2000).  
krj
response 166 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 03:21 UTC 2000

...so after I drop Twila off after today's festival trip, I turn on
the car radio for The Thistle and Shamrock, and Fiona Ritchie is 
playing a track from the Kornog reunion album.  Wow!
Someone had mentioned a "new" Kornog album on rec.music.celtic
and I had been sure that they were mistaken.  But amazon.com 
is taking orders for it, the Herschel Freeman Agency is booking 
a fall tour for them, and someplace in the Southwest has them in 
concert in late October, all according to web pages.
 
For many of us, Kornog's mid-80s albums were our introduction to 
Breton music.  
micklpkl
response 167 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 15:06 UTC 2000

re: #166 - Kornog will be playing a benefit for the Austin (Tex.) Celtic
Festival on 26 October. I hope to be there. Here's an URL for those interested
in a short bio:
http://www.io.com/~rarii/TCMN/NewsArticles/Kornog.html

In other news, I noticed that one of my most favourite artists, Susan McKeown,
is due out with a new CD one week from this Tuesday (26 Sept). This one is
mostly traditional songs, and it's called "Lowlands" You can find lots of
useful tidbits here:
http://house-of-music.com/susan/lowlands.shtml
Be sure to check out the link to Susan's personal comments about the songs,
lyrics, musicians, and more.
krj
response 168 of 226: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 06:37 UTC 2000

The Kornog tour schedule went up on the Herschel Freeman Agency website.
Looks like the closest they get to Ann Arbor is going to be Mt. Pleasant.
We went to CMU to see them in the 1980s, I suppose we can do it again; 
of course back then I lived in Lansing, not Ann Arbor.  :P
krj
response 169 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 06:20 UTC 2000

We're just catching the end of a public television show featuring a 
band called Barrage, a seven fiddle band which seems to be largely 
inspired by Riverdance.  The show airs on Detroit public TV on Sunday
at 8 pm.  "Barrage: the World On Stage."
dbratman
response 170 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 17:14 UTC 2000

For fans of what I like to call the "Big Celtic Sound", I've been 
listening to the new Enya album, "A Day Without Rain".  (Samples are at 
the official Enya site, www.enya.com.)

I have to admit I was a little nervous about this one.  Donald Keller's 
Four-Album Theory says (to summarize it badly) that pop artists have 
four good albums in them, after which they start going downhill, and 
that the downturn usually comes after a Best Of album.  Well, Enya had 
released four albums and a Best Of, and this is the first one since 
then.  So how is it?

For die-hard Enya fans like me, it's more of the same good stuff.  For 
those only moderately fond of her music, it may well be a 
disappointment.  This is the first album in which she breaks no new 
ground.  Everything sounds like what she's done before, even the 
highlights.  This is the third new album in a row with a hauntingly 
beautiful slow waltz that would be sublime to dance to (I should know, 
as waltzing to "Caribbean Blue" was the finest dancing experience of my 
life).  This one is called "Wild Child".  The other highlight in 3/4 
time, "Flora's Secret", is a compendium of Enya's favorite musical 
tricks: the pizzicato trick, the snare trick, the pseudo-ritard trick, 
etc.  It works if you're succeptible to them.

There is one song in Latin, and one in Gaelic, and apart from the 
latter there's virtually no remaining evidence to suggest to the 
newcomer that Enya started out as an Irish folk musician.  She is now 
pure MOR pop, but - as I can say with some authority, having had my 
childish ears stuffed with 50s and 60s MOR by my parents - very high 
quality MOR pop.  I'm very happy with my purchase, but I don't think 
it's quite time to retire the Four-Album Theory yet.
happyboy
response 171 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 20:50 UTC 2000

new age craaap.
anderyn
response 172 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 00:09 UTC 2000

Oh I don't know. I like Enya. This album isn't my fave, but it is nice to
have.
mcnally
response 173 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 06:05 UTC 2000

  Yeah, I don't know that I'd agree with #171 either -- I'd want to save a
  label like that for something truly awful, like Tesh or Yanni..

  I haven't heard the latst Enya album (or the one before that, or even,
  possibly, the one before that..) but I'm pretty willing to believe that
  it's exactly what David says it is -- extremely polished, meticulously
  crafted, completely calculated, appealing-to-those-who-like-that-sort-
  of-thing MOR pop.  And what's wrong with that?
happyboy
response 174 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 15:06 UTC 2000

she's the irish equivalent of kenny g.
eeyore
response 175 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 15:09 UTC 2000

Yeah...much as I really love a lot of the Irish stuff, the computer generated
music just sits all wrong on my nerves...kinda makes me cringe.
happyboy
response 176 of 226: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 20:31 UTC 2000

i'm down with the acoustic stuff.
mcnally
response 177 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 04:04 UTC 2001

  re #174:  are you sure you're not thinking of Clannad?  :-p

happyboy
response 178 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 17:37 UTC 2001

enya's sister is WAY better, maaaan.

just fuckin' back off!


        ;)
krj
response 179 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:53 UTC 2001

Note for David Bratman: did you ever pick up on the reissue of Clannad's
first album?  My recollection is that someone had to remaster it from a 
vinyl copy because Philips had lost the master tapes.
dbratman
response 180 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 21:16 UTC 2001

Anyone who dislikes Enya is not going to get an argument from me, even 
though I do like her.  But as Mike observes, there's a huge difference 
between Enya and Tesh or Yanni.  They are mushy; she is not.

Happyboy: Yes, Maire is a better singer than Enya.  But her band is no 
longer better.  Clannad, too, turned to mush, and were only good when 
they were obscure - the purest example of selling out that I know of in 
music.  ("Selling out" means not just "becoming famous", but losing 
whatever made your fame justified in the process.)

Ken: I have a couple early Clannad albums on CD, including "Dulaman" 
which was my introduction to the band.  The transfer quality on that 
one did not strike me as good.  But I don't think I have the first 
album.  My favorite, I recall, was no. 2, which I don't think I've ever 
seen on CD.
mcnally
response 181 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 22:14 UTC 2001

  I've heard people speak well of the early Clannad albums.  My only
  experience with the band was through a "best of" CD that I checked
  out of the library.  It pushed nearly every "bad music" button I have,
  which is something I wasn't expecting..
anderyn
response 182 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 00:20 UTC 2001

Mmm. I don't have any Clannad after "Sirius", I don't think. I'm not sure they
are putting out new albums. My favourite is probably the live album they did
early on, although the music for "Legend" (the soundtrack to the Robin Hood
series) still holds a place of honor in my heart. 
dbratman
response 183 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 07:06 UTC 2001

I don't know which compilation album of Clannad's you heard, Mike, but 
as far as I can tell from a discography online, all such albums consist 
mostly if not entirely of stuff from after they "sold out."  
Both "Sirius" and "Legend" are also post-sellouts.

I've heard people describe both those albums as "early" Clannad, but 
that's like describing "Revolver" as early Beatles.  The major change 
in their style, like it or not, came before then.

The early Clannad albums are "Clannad", "Clannad 2","Dulaman", "Clannad 
in Concert", and "Crann Ull".  Opinions differ about "Fuaim", which is 
transitional (and which is the only Clannad album with Enya on it).  No 
others (unless you include a bootleg from the "Clannad in Concert" tour 
which I've never heard).  One Clannad website, www.jtwinc.com/clannad, 
defines the above as "Traditional" and the later albums 
as "Electronic", but that's just the beginning of the difference.
ashke
response 184 of 226: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 16:41 UTC 2001

Okay...  Now I'm gonna get pissy.  I don't believe in the "selling out"
principle.  I didn't know of Clannad UNTIL I saw the Robin Hoods (and I think
that michael praed kicks jason connery's butt any day, thank you very much)
and from there I found both their music and enyas.  So if you define selling
out a change in their music to appeal to a more mass audience, then oh well.
without that, I would have never found "Siuil a Ruin" and other songs.  I know
that people get very attached to the music a certian way, but I don't fault
other bands for changing or expanding.  I'm a fan of celtic music, but it's
nice to hear something different, like the poppy changes that the Corrs are
doing, or even the Chieftans with...everyone.  

I'm wondering, and it's an honest question, if people call it "selling out"
because they don't like the changes, or because of the following of people
that generally arise from these pieces...
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