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phenix
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response 16 of 71:
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Apr 27 16:59 UTC 2002 |
heh. wait, closet bi then?
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lelande
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response 17 of 71:
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Apr 28 23:19 UTC 2002 |
have you ever looked at a puppy's hindquarters and taken a good long think
over the possibilities?
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jazz
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response 18 of 71:
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Apr 29 19:07 UTC 2002 |
Aaaaaaah! I'm damaged!
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void
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response 19 of 71:
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May 3 19:12 UTC 2002 |
re resp:15: No. Women who are sexually interested in both genders are
bisexual. Lesbians are women who have no sexual interest in men. I'm
really sick and tired of "lesbians" with boyfriends.
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jmsaul
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response 20 of 71:
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May 3 22:33 UTC 2002 |
I know several bisexuals who are really sick of being told by lesbians that
they're either deluding themselves and are really lesbian, or are straights
pretending to be bi because it's trendy. So it's really refreshing to see
that you acknowledge their existence. ;-)
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jazz
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response 21 of 71:
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May 3 23:21 UTC 2002 |
There's more too it than that, though, it's the instant friend drama
package. I've seen a lot of more lonely bisexual girls get sucked up into
that, and they're usually the ones who declare themselves "lesbian" - which
they seem to view as a political label more than anything else - and have
boyfriends. A good friend of mine went down that path. Very confused girl.
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i
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response 22 of 71:
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May 4 14:45 UTC 2002 |
I view it more as a religion than as a drama package. "Sinner, yea have
but to Repent, and Proclaim the Creed of the New Fundamentalist Church of
Lesbianism, and yea shall be one of the Elect, a Living Part of the Great
Body of the Church, no longer Wrong and Damned, but now Empowered to Tell
Sinning Fools and Unbelievers just how Wrong and Damned they really are!"
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vidar
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response 23 of 71:
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May 4 15:45 UTC 2002 |
There's always the possibility that someone who is having trouble
understanding their sexuality might try to be heterosexual until they
realize their true sexuality - during that part they are technically
heterosexual (or whatever they're *trying* to be). Once they figure it
out, they are whatever they are.
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jazz
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response 24 of 71:
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May 5 02:51 UTC 2002 |
... and if more people had the courage to follow that path, it'd be
a better world.
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senna
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response 25 of 71:
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May 6 01:43 UTC 2002 |
People associate a bit too much meaning into the vocabulary.
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lelande
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response 26 of 71:
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May 6 19:33 UTC 2002 |
amen.
apeople.
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void
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response 27 of 71:
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May 8 20:44 UTC 2002 |
Words mean what they mean. If words can be redefined as anyone sees
fit, then language is no longer an effective way of communicating and we
need to come up with something else pronto.
Re resp:19: Bisexuals get a lot of crap from all three monosexual
camps. It makes me really mad when I see lesbians or gays start using
the same rhetoric against bis as the religious right use against us.
Having been burned more than once by bis who turned out to prefer hetero
privilege, I can understand the resentment toward them. Still, that's
no excuse to go on a crusade and try to make bis adhere to one gender.
I just don't date bi women or lesbians-with-boyfriends anymore.
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jazz
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response 28 of 71:
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May 8 23:56 UTC 2002 |
To be fair, though, is it possible to tell whether a person's decision
about two partners is influenced by whether they're more attracted to one
gender, or how society views their attractions, or whether they simply get
along better with one person than another?
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void
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response 29 of 71:
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May 9 15:50 UTC 2002 |
What are you referring to?
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jazz
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response 30 of 71:
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May 9 17:28 UTC 2002 |
You - on the subject of "het priv". ;)
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brighn
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response 31 of 71:
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May 9 20:07 UTC 2002 |
#28> I'm guilty of het privelege myself, but I think that gay monosexuals have
a superficial understanding of it, in general. It's more than, "Well, it's
easier to be with a MOTOS than a MOTSS, so I'll just be with a MOTOS and I
really don't care." There's a different "what's wrong with me?" soundtrack
in the mind when you're torn between social norm and non-norm than when you
are just non-normative.
Erg. I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but there's more to it than
emotional callousness or laziness, even though I can see how it might feel
that way to a MOTSS who's on the receiving end of it.
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void
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response 32 of 71:
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May 24 23:36 UTC 2002 |
There are also the gay+lesbian couples who get married solely to
claim hetero privilege. I've met enough couples like that to be
convinced taht their numbers are not insignificant. In most cases,
hetero privilege is nothing but rank cowardice.
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jaklumen
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response 33 of 71:
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May 25 01:02 UTC 2002 |
Whoa, that's a bit harsh.. I mean, without equal housing and equal
insurance benefits, maybe they are deciding to go with the flow right
now instead of trying to fight the system?
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phenix
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response 34 of 71:
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May 25 01:38 UTC 2002 |
rank cowardice or simple survival?
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void
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response 35 of 71:
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May 25 07:52 UTC 2002 |
Given that there are thousands of glbt's who live openly, het
privilege is rank cowardice.
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oval
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response 36 of 71:
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May 25 17:27 UTC 2002 |
perhaps "het privalege" needs to be defined.
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jmsaul
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response 37 of 71:
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May 26 01:37 UTC 2002 |
Re #35: Why are you condemning them for their lifestyle choice?
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response 38 of 71:
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May 26 12:35 UTC 2002 |
A bi who keeps getting into MOTSS relationships, then dumping them to
keep up his/her painted-on-the-closet-door image (or over other issues)
is sleazy, but i don't see that it's morally any different that a plain-
het charmer who keeps breaking engagements because he can't handle the
commitment.
You can be a real soldier, have real courage, and still say "Germany"
if you're fortunate enough to be offered a choice between that and a
(often considered less desirable) posting in S. Vietnam. It sounds
like void is a got-no-choice, really-pissed-off soldier in a stinking
rice paddy who's bashing on the soldiers in Germany.
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lelande
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response 39 of 71:
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May 26 18:11 UTC 2002 |
rank cowardice and simple survival are not mutually exclusive.
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orinoco
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response 40 of 71:
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May 28 15:44 UTC 2002 |
I'm never sure how I feel about the idea that queer people have a duty to be
visible. On the one hand, it seems like good common sense that the further
out of the closet everyone is, the more everyone benefits. On the other hand,
it seems strange to claim that gays and lesbians have special moral
obligations that straight people don't have. You wouldn't want to go claiming
that women, or men, or people of a certain race, have special moral
obligations, would you?
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