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bhelliom
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response 16 of 74:
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Jan 18 18:56 UTC 2006 |
I don't think he was a media whore, but he was hamstrung by his own
arrogance in his beliefs. I don't think he believed that he'd be
prosecuted, or perhaps he felt that a jury would acquit him again.
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tod
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response 17 of 74:
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Jan 18 19:09 UTC 2006 |
I think he knew well he was going to do some jailtime. He obviously had a
very low opinion of society's commitment to freedom of choice.
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jep
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response 18 of 74:
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Jan 18 19:19 UTC 2006 |
Maybe it was his association with Fieger, who is nothing *but* a media
whore.
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twenex
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response 19 of 74:
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Jan 18 19:23 UTC 2006 |
Re: #3. As if the likes of you give a shit about physically and mentally
disabled people. If the idea weren't so disgustingly offensive it'd be the
funniest thing I've heard in the last twelve months.
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klg
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response 20 of 74:
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Jan 18 20:19 UTC 2006 |
Dr Death is just a nut case. Gazing into the eyes of people as they
died?? He was too dangerous to be a doctor on the loose.
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happyboy
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response 21 of 74:
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Jan 18 20:29 UTC 2006 |
glass houses, kerry, re "nutcase."
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tod
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response 22 of 74:
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Jan 18 23:47 UTC 2006 |
I find it interesting that the Macomb County Sheriff got less time for raping
his secretary than Kevorkian got for assisting a suicide. VERY interesting.
And to boot, the sheriff's SON got his old job..and right after election
results came out..they showed him celebrating at campaign headquarters with
jailbait girls running around drunk holding beers...right there on channel
4 and 7. Blew my mind but spoke volumes about doubletalking rightwingers who
want max penalties for Kevorkian for snubbing the fascist pharmaceutical laws.
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cross
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response 23 of 74:
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Jan 19 00:04 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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tod
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response 24 of 74:
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Jan 19 00:20 UTC 2006 |
<snickers behind dumpster with Sandy Levin>
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richard
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response 25 of 74:
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Jan 19 00:27 UTC 2006 |
klg said:
"Dr. Death didn't just prescribe the means, he inserted the needle."
It doesn't even matter to you that this person WANTED to die, that this
person begged Kevorkian for help in dying, and that this person's
family are very grateful for his help. Staying alive is a CHOICE. We
are not responsible to anyone else for our lives. If you, klg, want to
end your life, that is your choice. Its your life, not anyone else's.
You can choose to go to sleep when and where you please. Why can't you
choose to die when and where you please? So you want Kevorkian to "rot
in jail" for helping a man of free will and conscious exercise his own
freedom to choose?
klg is a big believer in government restrictions on the ability of
people to live their own lives in their own way.
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bru
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response 26 of 74:
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Jan 19 06:31 UTC 2006 |
It isn't that the person wanted to die. as previously stated, other
doctors have prescribed the means to end lifre quietly when asked. He
built a machine, a death machine that administered fluids under his
direction.
He was in fact a media whore, seeking to promote the right to die.
Seeking every avenue to discuss it in public. Videotaping the deaths
and releasing them to the media ... Because he thought he was right.
He was wrong under michigan law, and was tried and convicted of his
crimes.
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klg
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response 27 of 74:
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Jan 19 12:01 UTC 2006 |
(What's your opinion on the penalty for the German who killed and ate
a, supposedly health, willing victim?)
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ogre666
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response 28 of 74:
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Jan 19 12:19 UTC 2006 |
or more importantly, what kind of side dishes do you prepare with that kind
of meal? i'm guessing sauerkraut for the germans.
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fudge
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response 29 of 74:
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Jan 19 12:34 UTC 2006 |
red or white with it?
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i
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response 30 of 74:
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Jan 19 13:00 UTC 2006 |
I'm sure i'd differ with jep & bru on details, but it certainly was
my impression that Dr. K was a low-class act and advocate for a
cause that demanded a very high-class act. The more intelligent
right-to-die people who i knew back then seemed very unhappy with
him.
Let him out when he's old & sickly enough so that the cost of his
medical care is getting to be a burden on the State budget, and
don't be shy about giving that as the reason for release.
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johnnie
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response 31 of 74:
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Jan 19 14:43 UTC 2006 |
I think an excellent case can be made that Doc Kevork is indeed a serial
killer, namely one of the subset known as "Angels of Death" (who kill
victims in some sort of medical setting, telling themselves and the
world that they did it for the good of the victim).
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jep
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response 32 of 74:
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Jan 19 16:21 UTC 2006 |
I am in favor of hopelessly ill people who in intolerable pain being
able to choose to end their lives. I have sick and elderly people in
my life. I am growing older myself and am aware of how this kind of
need could come into my life.
I am also wary of the possibility of people being coerced, or
influenced, to make decisions which are not in their own best
interests. Or of people having decisions made for them which they
wouldn't have made. I have seen a friend die, fighting for his life
right to the end, in great pain, but still with the will and desire to
live. I have known people (and know people) who were/are in situations
I would have thought were intolerable, but who were/are still happy.
Until you are in that situation yourself, I think, you cannot know what
you would do. There should be no social expectation for sick or
elderly people to end their own lives if they don't want to do so.
I don't hate Kevorkian, or despise him, but I am not a supporter,
either. I think he went too far and went about things the wrong way.
He got the nation to talk about assisted suicide, but he got them
talking about it in a way which wasn't very constructive and useful.
We all talked too much about Kevorkian, and not enough about those in
need of an end to their lives.
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tod
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response 33 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:08 UTC 2006 |
Should GW be in prison for taking us into Iraq "the wrong way?"
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klg
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response 34 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:09 UTC 2006 |
Another condition for Kevorkian's release ought to be his inability to
be of "assistance" to more victims.
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marcvh
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response 35 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:16 UTC 2006 |
How could you render him unable to do that? Cut off his arms?
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jep
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response 36 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:18 UTC 2006 |
If Kevorkian were to be released, it should certainly be with the
understanding that if he does it again, he'll be going back to jail.
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tod
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response 37 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:19 UTC 2006 |
Does what exactly?
Do you Kevorkian haters even know what he was charged with?
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klg
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response 38 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:21 UTC 2006 |
Wasn't that the condition under which he was out of jail previously? -
i.e., he cannot be trusted.
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jep
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response 39 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:39 UTC 2006 |
re resp:37: Yes, Todd, I do know what he is in jail for doing.
Assisting in a suicide is against the law in Michigan. If Jack
Kevorkian is released from jail, it should be with the clear
understanding that, if he assists in another suicide, he will go back
to jail.
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nharmon
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response 40 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:47 UTC 2006 |
According to Wikipedia: "On March 26, 1999, Kevorkian was charged with
second-degree murder for the delivery of a controlled substance
(administering a lethal injection to Thomas Youk). A Michigan jury
subsequently found Kevorkian guilty."
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