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tsty
response 156 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 03:20 UTC 2003

????????????? 5'7" ?????????????? from teh perspective of teh pics
i would not have thoguth above 5'2", tops. --oops-- sorry? i apologize.
mynxcat
response 157 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 18:05 UTC 2003

Again, which pictures are you talking about? I'm defiitely 5'6.5" at least.
So 156 lbs is hardly "blimping out"
keesan
response 158 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 19:25 UTC 2003

The weight tables for me (5 feet 5.5") if I had 'big frame' say up to 150 is
normal, or down to about 120.  
tsty
response 159 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 08:40 UTC 2003

whatever the first pics were .. maybe not 'published' but avaiablle
upon request. 
  
ok, 5'7'' and 150-ish is JustFine (tm).
mynxcat
response 160 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 12:47 UTC 2003

First pictures were published. They are available upon request to very few
people. And first pics were head-shots. You cldn't guess my height from them.

Saturday, we decided to treat ourselves. After 2 weeks of choosing healthy,
Saturday was splurge day. After half a packet of guacamole chips, we had
dinner at the Martini Bar. Brusschetta, Penne Pasta with Shrimp, and the
crowning glory of the evening - Tiramisu. I think the splurge was well worth
it.

Finally bought egg-beaters, and soy milk. Soy milk has a slightly funny taste,
but I can easily get used to it. 
lynne
response 161 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 13:11 UTC 2003

Why soy milk?  Is it lower cal or lower carb?
edina
response 162 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 14:09 UTC 2003

It's loaded in protein.  I can't get used to the taste, and God knows, I've
tried.
keesan
response 163 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 15:26 UTC 2003

Soy milk has no cholesterol.  It does have fat and the commercial soy milks
also add sugar and flavoring.  They gave me some in the hospital but I
switched to no-sugar milk instead.  It did taste odd due to the sugar and
vanilla.  The unflavored unsweetened stuff tastes like beans.
happyboy
response 164 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 15:49 UTC 2003

egg beaters are ok, soy milk tastes like dirty sugar water.

soy cheese, soy yogurt, and *not-dogs* i can't stomach...
just the SMELL of not-dogs makes be wanna barf.


morningstar burgers, sassidge, and worthington fri-pats,
on the other hand are yummy...i like just good ol plain
tofu as well.
remmers
response 165 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 16:13 UTC 2003

I think that there's wide variation in flavor between different
brands of soy milk.  My favorite is Silk brand, red carton.
Full-flavored, not at all like "dirty sugar water".  I prefer
it to real milk on cereal and added to coffee.
mynxcat
response 166 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 16:40 UTC 2003

I think I got the Silk brand. I got it as an experiment, I've heard so much
about soy-milk, I had to try it. As I said, I could get used to it's taste,
but I doubt it will replace real milk in this household. It might, if it gels
well in "Indian" tea, but I highly doubt it. Maybe if I get sereal, I will
makel ike remmers and put it on that. However, I'm not a cereal person, so
we'll see how that goes.

Keesan will be proud to know that my refrigerator is stock fuill of fiber.
Apples, grapes, carrots, and a mango. Also som canteloupe. And mushrooms, yum.
I think today's going to be a good day for food.

Workout this morning was great. How much can you trust the machines on
calories burnt? I know it will vary somewhat depending if you're actually
working the machine, or waiting for minutes to tick byu. I discovered the
elliptical, and spent an hour on it. Total calories it says lost were about
660. I did have it on teh high incline about 50% of the time. 

edina
response 167 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 17:18 UTC 2003

I love the elliptical.  it makes your ass go away.
lynne
response 168 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 17:50 UTC 2003

Not mine.  I think I have hockey butt.
Y'know, I never quite trust the calories-burned number on the elliptical
trainer.  It always seems like much less effort than the bikes or stair-
masters, and claims 2-3x as many calories burned.  However, I still use it
 a lot when I go to the gym because I like it better.  (I have no scientific
basis for not trusting the numbers...if they're more or less accurate, that
would rock.)
keesan
response 169 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:04 UTC 2003

Keesan is definitely proud of mynxcat's refrigerator.
mynxcat
response 170 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:37 UTC 2003

 :) keesan.

I second edina's comment on the elliptical and asses. I can actually 
feel those muscles get a workout.

I think the elliptical does get your heart-rate up, but with little 
impact on your legs, or much less impact. Maybe that's why it seems 
like the effort isn't as much? I definitely sweat a lot, and I feel 
the muscles in my ass, and thighs getting worked, but unlike the cross-
trainer and the treadmill, there's little impact to the calves, which 
is good, because a lot of times I know I can do a lot more, but my 
calf-muscles feel like they're going to drop. Without having to worry 
about that, I can go for an hour on the elliptical, work up a good 
sweat, and not lose feeling in my lower-legs.
mynxcat
response 171 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:42 UTC 2003

Hmmm, I was looking at the internet, and I read that "Just a word of 
warning regarding cardio equipment and calories burnt. Many cardio 
machines if not all don't ask for your weight and tell you that you're 
burning X number of calories. The number displayed is for a person of 
average weight [Usually average is 150 pounds]. For many people the 
number of calories is overstated. " The elliptical machine I use asks 
for my weight. And even if it didn't, 150 lbs is pretty close to what 
I weigh

mynxcat
response 172 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:50 UTC 2003

And from 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/25/earlyshow/contributors/minnal
essig/main530806.shtml

Here are some activities and the number of calories they burn (for a 
150-pound person, on average): 
Stationary bike (at moderate level): 504 calories/hour 
Elliptical trainer (general): 648 calories/hour 
Stairmaster: 432 calories/hour 
Running (11.5 min/mile): 648 calories/hour 
Walking (17 min/mile): 288 calories/hour

which shows that the elliptical trainer numbers are pretty close to 
accurate. Yay!

The article also explains why interval training burns a lot of 
calories. The fat burning program on the elliptical is pretty close to 
the interval-training program, so that would explain the large number 
of calories lost.

keesan
response 173 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 18:38 UTC 2003

I had better be careful not to overexercise and lose weight ;)
Do you know of any exercises for making the buttocks larger so that it will
be possible to sit on a less padded chair?  Walking has not helped much.
slynne
response 174 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 19:54 UTC 2003

Keesan probably would also like the pumpkin pie I baked yesterday. I 
accidently used a can of regular pumpkin instead of the pumpkin pie 
filling. In other words, no sugar. It wasnt too bad except for that 
first bite when I was expecting something a little more sweet. 
tod
response 175 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 20:13 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 176 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 20:39 UTC 2003

Heh
lynne
response 177 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 23:59 UTC 2003

Hmm.  Often, the elliptical I used at the MIT gym would tell me I was
burning about 600 calories in about 40 min.  It was definitely a good
workout, but the bike always was much more effort and told me I'd burned
fewer calories.  The calf-muscle explanation sounds good to me.  The
elliptical definitely works more of your body.
I think hockey and swimming are known for building up butt size.  I don't
swim very often; I can say for sure that hockey works the butt muscles
pretty thoroughly.  They're essential for standing your ground against
an opponent who is trying to knock you over, or who you are trying to 
knock over.  Anyway, while my ass is not small, I think I'd describe it
as solid rather than large.  More exercise is not the way to get rid of
that.
I was screwing around with BMI calculators online today, and was annoyed
just a bit to find that I'd crossed the line into the "overweight"
classification.  Meanwhile, the body fat calculators told me I'm about
23% fat, which is well within the healthy range.  It's really gross to
think about carrying 30+ pounds of fat around, though.  Maybe I'll go
exacerbate my butt at hockey practice tomorrow morning.
keesan
response 178 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 01:39 UTC 2003

You can be 'overweight' by having lots of muscle.  
scott
response 179 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 02:20 UTC 2003

I think I'd like elliptical trainers a lot more if they weren't designed for
people under 6 feet tall.  I feel sort of cramped on them, anyway.  Now that
winter is coming it'll be time to start hitting the stairclimbers again...
mynxcat
response 180 of 332: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 03:13 UTC 2003

The ideal fat percentage for women is in the 22-25% range, for men its much
less. Makes sense, seeing that women have more fat in their breasts and
overall need more fat on their bodies than men do.

600 calories in 40 minutes on the elliptical is believable if you were going
at a steep incline or really fast. I did 580 calories in 55 minutes this
morning. Some 660 calories in an hour yesterday. 

Keesan is right, when you start buiilding muscle, you tend to put on more
weight. Muscle weighs more than fat. 
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