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krj
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response 154 of 160:
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Dec 17 22:07 UTC 2002 |
Wow, this is huge. In the early reporting it sounds like a case
of "jury nullification." Thanks, David!
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dbratman
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response 155 of 160:
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Dec 18 01:18 UTC 2002 |
I hope it's not jury nullification, because then it could be
overturned, and wouldn't have any precedential force. What we need is
what resp:153 quotes the jury foreman as saying, that ebook use
restrictions are a direct violation of established fair use provisions.
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gull
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response 156 of 160:
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Dec 18 03:24 UTC 2002 |
The SecurityFocus report (which is off the AP wire, I think) suggested this
wouldn't really set a precident against the DMCA, and that another case
would be necessary for that. So maybe it was jury nullification.
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mdw
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response 157 of 160:
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Dec 18 07:00 UTC 2002 |
I think it's going to be clear how important this is as a precedent once
it's appealed. But the important thing is probably not the jury per se,
who aren't expected to interpret law, but only determine if the facts
"fit" the law, but the arguments made to the jury by the two opposing
teams of lawyers, and whatever instructions the judge gave the jury.
Most of that is based on centuries of hoary common law. Jury
nullification would be if the jury made a decision completely contrary
to all logic - in this case, it sounds like they more likely made a
decision consistent with the law as it was explained to them. Assuming
they did so and that the law was explained completely and accurately,
it's very likely the recording industry is going to be at least somewhat
disappointed. Perhaps DMCA didn't go far enough in working through all
the ramnifications of "fair use" and redefining them to meet the
recording industry's expectations, or perhaps the recording industry
completely failed to explain how legitimate use of resources could fail
to violate DMCA, leaving an apparent contradiction in law. That's no
problem for common law; apparent contradictions happen all the time,
indeed, lawyers thrive on the stuff. They've got all sorts of rules for
what happens in such cases, and if that's what happened here, then the
ever popular "status quo" rule won the day. There's another rule which
says if {a long list of exceptions} didn't happen, then what the jury
decides must be true, which means judges try hard not to interpret law
in ways which contradict how "properly instructed" juries interpret the
law. So I think the decision this jury reached is really quite
interesting.
Of course, that assumes a properly functioning judiciary system. You
never know how ideology will affect a "strict constructionalist".
It will be interesting to see what "son of DMCA" looks like should this
court decision survive the appeals process.
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gull
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response 158 of 160:
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Dec 18 14:12 UTC 2002 |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28590.html
The Librarian of Congress has the power to review the effects of the
DMCA and grant exemptions every three years. The deadline is Wednesday
for this round. Only narrow issues where there's a "factual case for
harm caused by the law" are considered, though.
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dbratman
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response 159 of 160:
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Dec 18 23:17 UTC 2002 |
I'm a librarian, but I'd never wanted to be Librarian of Congress. You
have to live in D.C., and the job is more administration and publicity
than actual librarianship. (Most librarians hate to be administrators,
and try to avoid promotion into such positions. As a result the
administrators are the ones who actually enjoy it, which is often even
worse.)
But I have to say, having power over the DMCA has made me dream
wistfully of what I'd do if I somehow did become Librarian of
Congress ... but if I did what I'd want to do, I probably wouldn't hold
the job long.
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remmers
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response 160 of 160:
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Dec 19 13:39 UTC 2002 |
(Librarian of Congress seems to be a powerful position. He also
gets to choose what films are added to the National Film Registry.
I always do a double-take when I see his name in the news -- he
was a history professor of mine in college, back in his teaching
days...)
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