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Grex > Music2 > #291: Music retail again: SKR Uptown (Classical) & Downtown to close |  |
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response 153 of 194:
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Mar 22 23:52 UTC 2001 |
If i'm looking for a nice non-big-chain really-know-their-stuff music
store to buy occasional classical, jazz, etc. CD's in within half an
hour of Ann Arbor, then i'm out of luck, right?
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remmers
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response 154 of 194:
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Mar 23 01:41 UTC 2001 |
Yep. It's appalling.
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keesan
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response 155 of 194:
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Mar 23 04:20 UTC 2001 |
What do you expect of a town where the nearest classical radio station is 60
miles away?
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md
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response 156 of 194:
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Mar 23 13:34 UTC 2001 |
It's simple: work up a plan, submit it to the SBA, get a nice fat loan,
open up your own non-big-chain really-know-their-stuff music store
right there in the middle of fabulous downtown Ann Arbor, and watch the
money roll in. You'd the the only one within 60 miles, how could you
fail?
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krj
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response 157 of 194:
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Mar 23 17:21 UTC 2001 |
resp:153 :: for occasional jazz purchases from an independent store,
there is still Schoolkids-in-Exile, in the basement under Bivouac on
State Street.
For an independent store with a decent selection of classical music?
It's not just that I can't think of one close to Ann Arbor: I can't
think of one period. There must be a couple left in North America
somewhere. It's not just in Ann Arbor where the independent CD
sellers are being crushed.
Somewhat outside your 30-minute radius is the Harmony House Classical
store in Royal Oak. Harmony House is a local chain, and that's the
best I can suggest. Your only other choices: buy used classical
discs at Encore Music, or else make your peace with the Borders chain or
one of the online retailers.
I don't have the article immediately available to me, but there was a
statistic (I think I quoted it in earlier responses) that classical
and jazz sales make up about a third of online CD sales, as against
perhaps 5-7% of instore sales.
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keesan
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response 158 of 194:
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Mar 23 17:23 UTC 2001 |
Might this be because classical listeners have already heard the piece and
don't have to go to some local store to find out what they are buying?
(Or because they are more familiar with online buying?).
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tpryan
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response 159 of 194:
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Mar 23 17:31 UTC 2001 |
While at Borders Downtown, I overheard a customer say to one
of our employees he was pleased to see the employee got work after
SKR classical. Some of the knowledge base may have gone across the
street.
Of course, it is so easy to buy Britney Spears at K-Mart or
Wall Mart, and very difficult to get classical or jazz at those 2.
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keesan
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response 160 of 194:
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Mar 23 18:18 UTC 2001 |
K-Mart had two or three CDs in the section labelled classical, I think they
were collections of excerpts.
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krj
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response 161 of 194:
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Mar 23 23:29 UTC 2001 |
md in resp:156 :: being the only classical music store within 60 miles
doesn't work any more. In the Observer, Jim Leonard said that he used
to have a large base of distant customers who made approximately monthly
pilgrimages to SKR Classical, and weekends were the store's busiest
times. But in the last couple of years, most of those far-away
customers switched over to the online retailers so they could avoid
the drive, and weekends became SKR Classical's quietest times.
sindi in resp:158 :: I believe that what's left of the classical and
jazz business is moving to the online stores because of inventory issues.
Unlike pop music which is mostly economically driven by large quantities
of a small number of discs, a good classical or jazz store has to
stock small quantities of large numbers of discs. This sort of an
inventory problem is best handled by a large national online store
because the online store has many more customers and thus has less
of a problem trying match obscure discs with buyers. (I'm not explaining
this well, oh well.)
There was a recent online essay somewhere discussing how amazon.com
had a minor hit with the Ken Burns Jazz series, and how everyone had
been forgetting that Internet e-commerce was supposed to be all about
niche marketing, and not selling more N*Sync discs.
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remmers
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response 162 of 194:
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Mar 24 13:58 UTC 2001 |
Re resp:161 2nd paragraph: That makes a lot of sense, and I think
you explained it quite well. My current musical interest is ragtime,
which is about as nichey as you can get. Traditional retail music
stores tend to carry almost none of it - maybe a couple of Scott
Joplin CD's and that's it. But there are a number of ragtime
performers, and they put out CD's, which are easy to find and
purchase online.
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happyboy
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response 163 of 194:
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Mar 24 14:46 UTC 2001 |
make pilgrimage to elderly music, k?
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krj
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response 164 of 194:
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Mar 24 19:27 UTC 2001 |
I did that last week, hap. But it's not really a "pilgrimage" for me,
since I work just across town from Elderly.
Elderly Instruments, the folk music specialist in Lansing, is an
interesting case. They've had a sizable mail order operation for
maybe 25 years, and in the last couple of years they have moved onto the
web in a very classy way -- see http://www.elderly.com.
As far as I can tell, they are the largest folk music discounters
in the country, with many labels priced at $12.50 and almost nothing
priced over $15. So essentially they are a national retailer who,
through the accidents of history and geography, just happen to have
their one storefront outlet in Michigan.
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tpryan
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response 165 of 194:
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Mar 24 22:29 UTC 2001 |
Maybe a springtime Grexpedition to Elderly is in order some
late April weekend maybe?
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happyboy
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response 166 of 194:
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Mar 25 16:07 UTC 2001 |
grexers are not allowed there.
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md
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response 167 of 194:
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Mar 25 16:35 UTC 2001 |
Neither are Jews, Barry.
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happyboy
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response 168 of 194:
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Mar 25 22:19 UTC 2001 |
quit jewing me you dirdee wop.
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md
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response 169 of 194:
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Mar 26 12:10 UTC 2001 |
Eh Gianni Schichi shutta you face. Lees I dona preten I'ma notta woppa.
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remmers
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response 170 of 194:
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Mar 26 13:56 UTC 2001 |
Re resp:163 - Does Elderly carry ragtime CD's?
I must admit that on my one visit to Elderly -- five or six years
ago -- I did find a ragtime folio that I hadn't seen elsewhere.
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davel
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response 171 of 194:
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Mar 26 14:20 UTC 2001 |
I'd be very, very, very surprised if they didn't carry ragtime. At a guess,
with a far better selection than most stores - but possibly not much that you
wouldn't already have access to, John.
I think I have a fairly recent recordings catalog, & will check if I can
remember when I'm at home, & email you.
But you might well want to try their web site. I haven't used it (lynx being
my sole web browser), but I've heard it's very good (as krj just said).
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krj
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response 172 of 194:
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Mar 26 15:32 UTC 2001 |
I'm not finding any ragtime CDs on the Elderly web site listings.
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happyboy
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response 173 of 194:
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Mar 26 15:34 UTC 2001 |
i don't pretend that i'm not a jew, mike.
THAT WAS VERY MEAN.
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md
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response 174 of 194:
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Mar 26 19:51 UTC 2001 |
[hangs head in shame]
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happyboy
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response 175 of 194:
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Mar 27 23:25 UTC 2001 |
you should be 'shamed. :P~~~
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md
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response 176 of 194:
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Mar 28 13:13 UTC 2001 |
[Just kidding. Barry.]
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happyboy
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response 177 of 194:
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Mar 28 13:51 UTC 2001 |
it's to late, deliza, my heart is broked.
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