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cross
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response 152 of 547:
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Apr 29 04:16 UTC 2003 |
Hum. I guess I'm kind of bummed about the RAM; what was the rationale
with not getting *any* error checking on it? (Not even parity checking!)
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aruba
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response 153 of 547:
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Apr 29 04:36 UTC 2003 |
$69 seems pretty steep for a keyboard. I'll take a look at CompUSA and see
what they have.
STeve will have to answer the questions about memory. He told me to buy
from Crucial, and they don't seem to offer any memory that isn't either ECC
or non-parity. (At least not any that will fit our system.)
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steve
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response 154 of 547:
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Apr 29 04:38 UTC 2003 |
Finding Athlon motherboard that use ecc ram is really hard thesedays.
In talking with hardware vendors, ecc is going away. The reliability
of standard memory has improved to the point that the economics have
driven ecc away. The good news is that ram is truly more reliable
than it was even five years ago. That, and the fact that ecc memory
is slower and has been pushed out of the way by people who want the
fastest systems possible. In looking at high end motherboards I was
struck by the fact that gamers now drive the market. Most people, and
most businesses don't need that Nth increase in speed, but gamers do.
CompUSA has changed their marketing scheme to accomodate this, for
example. I couldn't get a figure out of some managers there when
talking about their gamer market, but they did say it was "a lot".
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steve
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response 155 of 547:
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Apr 29 04:39 UTC 2003 |
The motherboard was not designed for it, and in fact crucial doesn't
make ecc memory of that kind.
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steve
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response 156 of 547:
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Apr 29 04:45 UTC 2003 |
Tha happy hacking keyboard looks nice, but I wonder if spending $69
for it is worth it. Remember that this is going to be used 1) at the
very start of installing OpenBSD, and then for emergencies and backups
when in the Pumpkin. Newegg has several at $25 or less, as does compUSA.
I want to poke at one to see what they feel like.
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mary
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response 157 of 547:
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Apr 29 11:09 UTC 2003 |
Would folks see any use to having another meeting to include board, staff
and anyone else who cares to attend, prior to the assembly?
The next BOD meeting is for next Tuesday, May 6th, at Zing's. The next
Plan Grex meeting is for the afternoon of Saturday, May 18th.
My only concern to simply adding this to the agenda for Tuesday's meeting
is if the involved people (staff) would be able to make it.
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glenda
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response 158 of 547:
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Apr 29 12:36 UTC 2003 |
Saturday, May 18th doesn't exist, the 18th is a Sunday :-) STeve will not be
available for either as we will be in Dayton attending the Ham Radio
Convention.
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gull
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response 159 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:05 UTC 2003 |
I got an IBM USB keyboard at Staples a while back. I don't remember how
much I paid for it, though. It's nice, but fairly large because it has
a lot of 'extra' buttons that you wouldn't need for Grex's console.
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keesan
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response 160 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:16 UTC 2003 |
Doesn't Leeron sell USB keyboards?
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steve
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response 161 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:29 UTC 2003 |
Mary, you want to slow things down? I don't, more than they already
have been.
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mary
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response 162 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:39 UTC 2003 |
It is indeed *Sunday*, the 18th.
Nope, I don't want to slow this down.
I'll be frank, STeve. Staff should be making decisions
regarding Grex, not any one person. I don't see it as
a given that this project rests in your hands just
because you see it that way.
If the consensus among staff is that the project is best
given to you, great. I'm looking for that consensus.
It wouldn't take a face to face for that to happen.
I'm sorry you can't make any of the planned meeting dates.
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steve
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response 163 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:39 UTC 2003 |
I wished I'd remembered the date for Dayton a little better. We will
be leaving for home in the early afternoon, so its still possible to
make the next gen meeting, depending on when in the evening it is. When
is it?
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mary
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response 164 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:40 UTC 2003 |
STeve, will you be available for the next board meeting,
this coming Tuesday evening?
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steve
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response 165 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:42 UTC 2003 |
Well, as I said I think we can make that. It's important and its
alawys better to leaver earlier than later. I'd like to get the
components we have and start building what we have.
Can I do that or are we going to have a meeting about it? I'd
like to get them either tonight if I'm back in town early enough,
or tomorrow.
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steve
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response 166 of 547:
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Apr 29 13:43 UTC 2003 |
Yes, I can make that. I hope we don't delay things a week.
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aruba
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response 167 of 547:
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Apr 29 20:56 UTC 2003 |
I received mail from NewEgg, letting me know that they got our check. So
hopefully they'll be able to ship our disks this week. I also checked on
our memory order, and it did indeed ship today.
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aruba
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response 168 of 547:
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Apr 30 14:11 UTC 2003 |
Looks like the motherboards we got from Leeron aren't quite the right ones.
(There are a lot of different versions of this board, with different
options. And everyone seems to have different model numbers for the
different versions, making it all very confusing.)
Leeron is looking into exchanging them right away, so this shouldn't slow us
down too much.
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aruba
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response 169 of 547:
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Apr 30 19:38 UTC 2003 |
Leeron's going to ship us new motherboards - they should arrive Friday.
NewEgg's waiting for our check to clear, which should take 3-5 days. Our
memory left Salt Lake City sometime yesterday, so it should be in the
midwest by now.
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aruba
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response 170 of 547:
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Apr 30 20:51 UTC 2003 |
Indeed, when I got home I found that the memory arrived this afternoon. So
now we're just waiting on disks and replacement motherboards.
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other
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response 171 of 547:
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May 1 22:10 UTC 2003 |
Of the three places I know of that I should or want to be on the evening
of Sunday 18 May, the one that wins is "on a plane from Denver."
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aruba
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response 172 of 547:
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May 2 21:48 UTC 2003 |
Leeron certainly is as good as his word - the replacement motherboards
arrived just now, and they appear to be just what we need. Thanks Leeron!
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aruba
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response 173 of 547:
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May 3 21:53 UTC 2003 |
Today I bought two extra Antec fans at CompUSA, for $15.99 apiece.
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aruba
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response 174 of 547:
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May 4 21:33 UTC 2003 |
Today, janc, dang, danr and I got together and began assembling Next Grex.
All went well, and NextGrex is currently running an infinite memory test.
(Since it doesn't have any hard disks yet, there's not too much else it can
do.)
Jan's going to make up a web page describing everything we did. But
basically, we
- Installed the CPU in the motherboard. Since cooling is an issue, I
decided to spen $14.99 for a tube of "Arctic Silver" thermal grease, which
goes between the CPU and the heatsink. All the web pages I looked at said
it works much better than the stuff which came already attached to the
heatsink.
- Installed the two extra fans I bought yesterday.
- Installed the CDRW in the case. This is very easy in our fancy case -
just screw some little plastic runners on the drive, and it slides in the
bay right from the front.
- Likewise with the floppy drive.
- Installed the port template which came with the motherboard on the back
of the case.
- Screwed the motherboard into the case.
- Put the memory in.
- Connected lots of power wires to the motherboard, drives, and all the
fans. Connected the USB ports on the front of the case, and firewire
ports on the back. Also the wires for the power switches, speaker, and
LEDs on the front of the case.
- Installed the SCSI card.
dang had brought a video card with him, and we put that in, plugged in a
monitor and keyboard, and booted it up. dang set the processor speed in
the BIOS, and set the system to boot from CD. He put in a copy of Linux
he had on CD and we successfully booted from it. It recognized all the
hardware we had installed.
So, all in all, very successful. Hopefully by next weekend the disks and
OS will have arrived, and we can take the next step.
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cross
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response 175 of 547:
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May 4 22:11 UTC 2003 |
Wonderful. Sounds great!
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steve
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response 176 of 547:
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May 4 23:54 UTC 2003 |
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